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Possible Hardware fixes

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Former Member over 13 years ago

So one of the things I plan to do when R-Pi are more available is to butcher a couple of them and incorporate some things I consider to be appropriate hardware fixes. This is my list so far, any feedback or additional suggestions welcome.

 

1. Remove the SD Card slot and replace it with a small adapter pcb containing a micro-sd connector. The full size SD card sticking out the end is ok for development or when you want to swap the card a lot, not so good when you want to build the whole Pi into something else and would like to use some of that dead space for other things. 1764377 micro-sd connector chosen, will be oriented at right angle to the current slot.

 

2. Replace usb polyfuse arrangement. Diodes Inc AP1212 seems to fit the bill. 1825303 33 pence each

 

3. Replace RG1 & RG2. Current plan is to use the TPS54231 1755637 as suggested by jamodio, however it's relatively expensive. Also looking at AP1533, 1825334 which appears similar from an external components point of view, but approx 1/10 the cost.

 

4. Cut the 1.8v from the Lan9512. Could do with the full gerbers to work out if this is possible. C29, C36 & C43 along with pins 15 & 38 just vanish into vias. Ideas welcome.  My other options are to remove the Lan9512 and make myself a model A, or to leave RG1 off and see if we still boot with 1.8v from the lan9512 regulator.

 

5. As I'll be replacing the SD card slot, I'm contemplating if it's possible to add some power switching to allow running the slot at 1.8v to get some of the faster access modes. I think this will probably need some driver work and stealing a gpio from somewhere. I'd be tempted to use GPIO5 or GPIO27 (CAM_CLK, CAM_GPIO), but maybe the GPU will mess with those and GPIO31/CONFIG3 could be a better choice.

 

6. RTC based on MCP79410, 1823155

 

7. Removal of micro-usb power connector as I don't consider it appropriate. 5v and 3.3v can be supplied via P1 instead.

 

If only 1.8v was available on P1, some things could have been easier. So...

 

8. Replace P1 with a 28 pin connector to allow 1.8v to be made available. The extra two pins to extend off the end on the pcb and be wired to RG1's previous position.

 

9. For ease of integration, put P1 on the underside of the board and likely also replace P4 & S7 with headers allowing their connectors to be moved onto the underlying board and aligned better wrt case.

 

Thoughts ?

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago

    looks like a good list.  Too bad the PoP ram is so hard to replace,

    as that would be another nice improvement.  I've been thinking of

    modifying one for high-altitude balooning, or similar uses, where

    size and/or weight matter.  So here's my list:

      1) remove csi connector,

      2) remove dsi connector,

      3) remove hdmi connector,

      4) remove RCA connector,

      5) remove audio connector,

      6) remove ethernet connector,

      7) remove micro usb connector (directly solder power wires),

      8) remove GPIO pins,

      9) remove LDO voltage regulators, replace with switch mode,

    10) remove LAN chip,

    11) remove dual-usb connector, directly solder one usb device,

    12) remove polyfuses, replace with 1 Ohm resistor,

    13) remove the capacitor that frequently falls off,

    14) as you suggest, replace SD with micro SD.

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  • jamodio
    jamodio over 13 years ago

    There is another DC-DC converter I'm testing for another design from Intersil, ISL9104 500mA 4.3MHz high efficiency, very small package and cheap, few external components.

     

    The Alpha board had DC-DC converters and apparently a better power supply design. The micro USB and phone chargers is turning to be a really bad idea, so I agree about changing that, actually I'm powering the board from the P1 header.

     

    Yes without the Gerbers is not easy to envision what kind of "blue wire" fixes can be done.

     

    I'm thinking seriously if after all there is enough interest and momentum to start a true "open source hardware" development.for a Pi like board, with parts that are documented. Even if I understand the reasons I don't like at all that the Pi design was built around a part that has practically no documentation publicly available.

     

    I may be able to get some funding and people interested to support an open project, perhaps I should exchange some lines with Jim Manley that seems interested to the right thing.

     

    I'm really pissed with all the secrecy, conspiracy, mystery, bad vibes and misinformation emanating from RPF.

     

    -J

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  • jamodio
    jamodio over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I'll be replacying the polyfuses with 0 ohm resistors, no need ot waste power.

     

    I'll probably keep ethernet and HDMI.

     

    Agreed with the two FPC connectors, good move by RPF to offer a camera that will be more expensive than the board.

     

    The RCA jack takes too much space, same as audio, perhaps something done on similar designs like Roku2, replace both by a single jack that can carry all signals, but resolution and image quality out of the composite video output is not very good, perhaps better use something that can support VGA instead.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to jamodio

    the 1 Ohm resistor is to avoid voltage drops from

    power surges on the USB device.

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  • morgaine
    morgaine over 13 years ago

    This thread is totally awesome, almost to the extent of demanding some 4-letter words to hammer home the point.  Mankind will reach the stars only by improving on what went before.  Being attached to what exists is barely worthy of bacteria.

     

    +1000

     

    My area of head-scratching:  how to turn the SD card into a network boot.

     

    Morgaine.

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  • jamodio
    jamodio over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    For that you should have a pair of good tantal bulk caps as recommended by the USB spec sort of 150µF, and I'd add USB power switches.

     

    I'd be nice if Broadcom started selling the "alpha" boards :-)

     

    -J

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to jamodio

    I'm thinking seriously if after all there is enough interest and momentum to start a true "open source hardware" development.for a Pi like board, with parts that are documented.

    I could certainly be interested, but I see two stumbling blocks. First is that anything with a GPU is unlikely to have good enough docs, second is that anything without a GPU seems unlikely to have the sort of mass market appeal to get the cost down to something reasonable.

     

    The rhombus-tech guys seem to be a reasonable way along this road already, with some interesting info like the cpus they've evaluated: http://rhombus-tech.net/evaluated_cpus/

    However they seem to be a long way from an actual released product and I'm not at all convinced of the EOMA-68 form factor. Although I do like the idea of a set of standard interfaces.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to jamodio

    and I'd add USB power switches.

    I probably didn't make it clear enough in the list, the AP1212 I mentioned is a usb power switch.

     

    Making the obvious comparison, the cheapest 140mA polyfuse from farnell is 0.113 gbp in qty 5, and the AP1212 is 0.33 gbp in qty 1. So I'm not at all sure the case for using polyfuses is a good one. Don't know what costs @ 10K, 100K etc would be like though.

     

    Anyway, remove D10, D11 and both polyfuses and it should be simple to put the power switch in, the datasheet suggests a 33uF cap on the usb connector side and it has a soft-start feature to avoid the power dip when connecting a device.

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to jamodio

    The RCA jack takes too much space, same as audio,

    I didn't add those to my list, almost goes without saying that I  won't use them and will likely remove them. For add-on boards that plug onto the gpio on top of the board that RCA connector is just too high.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to morgaine

    >My area of head-scratching:  how to turn the SD card into a network boot.

     

    There are some adapters that convert SD into USB, such as this one:

     

    http://www.teampctechnology.com/product_detail.php?id=603

     

    It appears to be discontinued, but there are probably others,

    athough most SD/USB adapters go the opposite direction.

     

    Once you've got USB, I think you're home free.

    You can connect it to a usb hub, with an ethernet port,

    along with usb keyboard/mouse and then disable the

    lan chip and save 20% of your cpu time.  Would make

    for the fastest RPi youtube demo to date if it works.

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