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RG1 1.8v regulator

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Former Member over 13 years ago

Ok, so in a different thread I threatened to remove RG1 and do some current measurements on it's output after seeing those thermal images that show it's not generating any heat...

 

Well, I did it tonight. Some photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/selsinork/RPi18v

 

The jumper pins in the output let me either just put a jumper on and verify the Pi boots ok, or wire a multimeter in series to get some current readings.

 

The results were interesting to say the least. I had to go back and check I was reading the multimeter correctly, that it wasn't broken etc.

 

On initial power up I see a negative current for a second or so which then reverses to about 0.5mA (yes half a milliamp, that's not a typo) for a few seconds while we get the first sd-card accesses. Once we're booted and sitting at the login prompt the current reading fluctuates from around 0.001mA to maybe 0.04mA. 

 

I'm using the 40mA range on a decent Fluke multimeter, so I've no reason to doubt the results. There's obviously going to be some inaccuracy down at that level due to length of meter leads etc, but the result is fairly clear.  You'll understand why I was checking the meter was working and I was reading it correctly though image

 

 

So from there onto the next test, lets try completely disconnecting RG1 and see if the Pi boots while using the LAN9512 1.8v 'output'.  Yes it does! 

 

I think that's reasonably good indication that jamodio got it spot on, the lan9512 shouldn't be connected to the 1.8v plane and it's heat problems are going to be largely due to supplying current on it's 1.8v filter pin that it was never designed to do.

 

So anyone willing to pull RG1 off a Pi and verify my results ?

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    johnbeetem over 13 years ago

    People have reported very different IC3 (LAN9512) temperatures at the RasPi forum, which many ascribe to uncalibrated "digital" temperature sensors and I've suggested is due to how well IC3's ground pad is soldered.  I wonder if some of this variance is caused by different RG1 threshold voltages, where some RasPis generate 1.8V using RG1 and others using IC3, depending on who manufactured RG1?

     

    Does anyone know if IC3's 1.8V is generated linearly or by a switching regulator?  If it's a switching regulator you should see ripple on a 'scope.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    hard to be 100% sure, the datasheet isn't the best, and there's some stuff that coule be a switching regulator on the schematics..  but down at 20mV on the scope and I'm not seeing the sort of thing that's characteristic of a switching regulator, so I'd go with the core regulator being linear.

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    Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    hard to be 100% sure, the datasheet isn't the best, and there's some stuff that coule be a switching regulator on the schematics..  but down at 20mV on the scope and I'm not seeing the sort of thing that's characteristic of a switching regulator, so I'd go with the core regulator being linear.

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