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RG1 1.8v regulator

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Former Member over 13 years ago

Ok, so in a different thread I threatened to remove RG1 and do some current measurements on it's output after seeing those thermal images that show it's not generating any heat...

 

Well, I did it tonight. Some photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/selsinork/RPi18v

 

The jumper pins in the output let me either just put a jumper on and verify the Pi boots ok, or wire a multimeter in series to get some current readings.

 

The results were interesting to say the least. I had to go back and check I was reading the multimeter correctly, that it wasn't broken etc.

 

On initial power up I see a negative current for a second or so which then reverses to about 0.5mA (yes half a milliamp, that's not a typo) for a few seconds while we get the first sd-card accesses. Once we're booted and sitting at the login prompt the current reading fluctuates from around 0.001mA to maybe 0.04mA. 

 

I'm using the 40mA range on a decent Fluke multimeter, so I've no reason to doubt the results. There's obviously going to be some inaccuracy down at that level due to length of meter leads etc, but the result is fairly clear.  You'll understand why I was checking the meter was working and I was reading it correctly though image

 

 

So from there onto the next test, lets try completely disconnecting RG1 and see if the Pi boots while using the LAN9512 1.8v 'output'.  Yes it does! 

 

I think that's reasonably good indication that jamodio got it spot on, the lan9512 shouldn't be connected to the 1.8v plane and it's heat problems are going to be largely due to supplying current on it's 1.8v filter pin that it was never designed to do.

 

So anyone willing to pull RG1 off a Pi and verify my results ?

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    Former Member over 13 years ago

    I think it may be time to contact SMSC, and find out whether it's OK

    to use the LAN9512 chip's 1.8V "output" pin to power other devices

    in parallel with another LDO regulator.

     

    The datasheet, p. 41, at:

       http://www.smsc.com/media/Downloads_Public/Data_Sheets/9512.pdf

    shows power dissipation of 763mW.  But that probably doesn't account

    for this scenario.  SMSC's tech support is available at:

     

    https://www2.smsc.com/mkt/intforms.nsf/faemail

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    jamodio over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Catching up after some vacations.

     

    NO IT IS NOT OK to use the VDD18CORE pins as an output supply, they pins are there only to hookup the

    decoupling caps for the internal regulator.

     

    Glad you guys had a chance to test the theory, if the Gerbers match the schematics, and the actual PCB match the Gerbers, that's a hardware error on the Rpi, I don't think that there is much more to say.

     

    -J

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    jamodio over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Catching up after some vacations.

     

    NO IT IS NOT OK to use the VDD18CORE pins as an output supply, they pins are there only to hookup the

    decoupling caps for the internal regulator.

     

    Glad you guys had a chance to test the theory, if the Gerbers match the schematics, and the actual PCB match the Gerbers, that's a hardware error on the Rpi, I don't think that there is much more to say.

     

    -J

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