Banned... No good deed goes unpunished

I just got banned by a pissy mod because I posted that I am sick of hearing about all these awards that the raspberry pi keeps winning when a lot of people are still waiting to get theirs from that other company.

he called me a troll and a whiner

I just got banned by a pissy mod because I posted that I am sick of hearing about all these awards that the raspberry pi keeps winning when a lot of people are still waiting to get theirs from that other company.

Interesting to see that many of the awards are product of begging to the fanbois and cult members to vote for them.

To be sarcastic, how long before we see fanbois and cult members patting themselves on the back for being good fanbois.

Perhaps Cambridge is going to provide a fanbois paper in the next IT course?

Been there once, did not like what I found. Will not go back again.

jamodio wrote:

 

Interesting to see that many of the awards are product of begging to the fanbois and cult members to vote for them.

These awards are often popularity contests and a board that has sold 500K units definitely has an advantage because more people have heard of it.

That said, I thought the T3 award was mostly deserved given its criteria:

The Innovation of the Year Award will go to a product that demonstrates true technological invention, which has the power to improve, disrupt or create a product category of its own.

1.  True technological invention: not really, it's a $35 BeagleBoard.  That's in impressive bit of engineering, but not "true technological invention".

2.  Has the power to improve or disrupt: yes, definitely.  I'll support almost anything that disrupts closed, monopolistic operating systems and encourages people to use computers to create rather than consume.

I looked at what RasPi beat out.  I'm glad to see it beat out Windows 8   Not so happy about MakerBot, but while MakerBot wins on invention and product category, it's probably not going to be that disruptive.  I was amused by PadFone.  Nice idea, but I don't expect it to do any better than the Motorola Atrix Lapdock (supplies are limited, no rain checks).  I love the Twizy, but most people won't buy a car unless it goes vroom vroom.  Lytro is an interesting technology, but try to explain it to your mum... or to undergraduates.  So that leaves RasPi.  Kudos.

ON the other hand, RasPi beating out BeagleBone for Most Hackable Gadget at the Makeys?  Are you kidding me?  Obviously just a popularity contest. 

Oh, and to those people still complaining about not getting their RaspberryPi's why haven't you got one from Element14/whoever? They have them is stock right now. Just drop the order and go someone else. It's called being sensible. That's what I did.  No problems. Those RS bunch coulnd't organize a piss up in a brewery, but the other guys are OK.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Those RS bunch coulnd't organize a piss up in a brewery, but the other guys are OK.

I'm sure RS will be delighted to hear from you about how they can fill orders at a rate faster than Broadcom can supply them with BCM2835 devices.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Those RS bunch coulnd't organize a piss up in a brewery, but the other guys are OK.

I'm sure RS will be delighted to hear from you about how they can fill orders at a rate faster than Broadcom can supply them with BCM2835 devices.

@Dinova So, RS fail to order enough stuff, and that's Broadcom's fault? How come Element14 managed to organise themselves and don;t have a problem? Seems to me this is down to RS prediction management and nothing else.

@shabaz. Prat? What word do you suggest I use dude? "This first time posting person behaved in an incorrect manner designed to cause offence, and was treated accordingly." Better? Sometimes, name calling is an effective way of getting across a point. And to be honest, there are plenty of much better terms that apply in this case, I chose to use the most inoffensive. I don't care whether people like my contributions or not, but something has to be said about the people here and their continual bad mouthing of the moderators there, which as far as I can tell is just sour grapes. 'Over there' is a much more succesful forum than over here, with more users, better technical advice and all better information, and no bad mouthing (because the moderators ban people like that, unlike here). That what these alledgedly terrible moderators have produced. Live with it people.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Sometimes, name calling is an effective way of getting across a point.

No it is not.  Name calling belongs somewhere else, not here.

This forum expects people to express their opinions in a polite and professional manner, and asserts that participants are entitled to being treated with respect.

Please read this explanatory post by Element 14's Sagar Jethani explaining their Term of Use in a very approachable manner:

http://www.element14.com/community/message/58739#58739/l/about-our-terms-of-use

Morgaine.

So Billy (if that is actually your name),

after all this rant in multiple installments, what is your point ?

Haven't got anything in particular mate. Just don't like to see the bad mouthing of a *successful* charity going on here, when they don't deserve it, and I reckon some of the people doing it here need to be taught a short sharp lesson. Just because you get banned from somewhere for doing something wrong (persistently in many cases I reckon), doesnt mean that somewhere is being run badly, you may think so, but you don't run the Raspberry Pi foundation, and you don't run the Raspberry Pi Foundation forum. Now, you may not like the way its run, but that nothing to do with you. Looking at it - they are pretty successful, winning awards, selling hundreds of thousands of devices and have a succesfull forum, and yet all you people here do is whinge at them for 'doing it wrong'. I'm thinking, maybe they are not the ones doing it wrong.

It's actually William, but I prefer Bill. That was until Billy Bob Thornton came on the scene, which rather urinated on my fireworks and imediately got  me a new nickname. Hence BillyBob.

@Dinova. You a mod here then? Or just run the place? You don't treat the Raspberry Pi foundation with respect. Why should I treat you any different?

Good for you, point taken, and I'm not your "mate."

You can go now and teach your lesson across the universe if that makes you happy, it will not change my opinion about the Raspberry Pi Foundation, some of its members and its forum. If you don't like what you see here, just leave, you have not contributed anything significant and I'm pretty sure that nobody will miss you, at least I won't.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

@Dinova. You a mod here then? Or just run the place?

Please don't personalize this.  I just quoted from an Element 14 admin's explanatory post and you're attacking the messenger.  We can have a perfectly rational discussion about the behavior of RPF "moderation" without attacking fellow members here.

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

You don't treat the Raspberry Pi foundation with respect. Why should I treat you any different?

We describe accurately the banning and name-calling and harrassment of people who express valid concerns over there, and it is not a matter of dispute because it's in the forum history.  It is not disrespectful to describe accurately what is happening, it is simply factual.

If an accurate description of their actions is not to their liking and they cannot ban it, perhaps they should stop doing what they're doing.  Alternatively, if they take pride in acting as they do, then our reporting it accurately should be to their liking.

You describe nothing accurately as far as I can tell! What you do is take what's happened, emphasise the bits that make you look good and ignore the bits that make you look bad. That's not describing thing accurately in my book.

As far as I can tell, any forum is alowed to remove post or people that critisize them or make them look bad (whether deserved or not - I'm thinking, judging by commenters here they were right in at least some of the bans). That because its their forum and they need to maintain their brnad. It's why Apple contunally remove critical posts from their website. If you critisize Element14 here, in the way you have been critical over there, I would expect you to get banned from here as well. And you should not be surprised! That goes for most of the people complaining about banning! That what I don't get people - why are you surprised when being continually critical on their own website gets you banned from it?

Billy Thornton wrote:

I don't care whether people like my contributions or not, but something has to be said about the people here and their continual bad mouthing of the moderators there, which as far as I can tell is just sour grapes. 'Over there' is a much more succesful forum than over here, with more users, better technical advice and all better information, and no bad mouthing (because the moderators ban people like that, unlike here).

So, you're still here because...

Billy Thornton wrote:

 

Haven't got anything in particular mate. Just don't like to see the bad mouthing of a *successful* charity going on here, when they don't deserve it, and I reckon some of the people doing it here need to be taught a short sharp lesson

If you haven't got anything in particular to say, why say it?

There's not an awful lot of "bad mouthing" the charity, just some of the people who they have designated as moderators without checking to see if they are appropriate for the job.

This is notwithstanding the "scam" comments, which I agree went too far, and the criticism of RS when the order hasn't been received when it's pretty easy to cancel the order and switch suppliers.

In any case, I'm not sure that your comments are teaching anyone a short sharp lesson. "Stop moaning" isn't much of a lesson.