Banned... No good deed goes unpunished

Speaking as someone who received a Raspberry Pi as present yesterday, and is now online shopping for accessories, reading the 'Getting Started' guides, exploring the many forums and communities, and as someone who has extensive experience of using forums, moderating and being moderated, it is extremely important to maintain a happy, collaborative, community, and moderators mostly do a thankless job which is absolutely essential.

It is also essential to recognise when you've had your knuckles cracked by a moderator, what it was that you did to get that painful attention, learn from it, grow in character, adapt and become a better member of the community and assist the forum by maintaining the happy, collaborative, community spirit.

It doesn't take a minute to see why a moderator would take issue with the post concerned. The information contained within-it is business related (not community related) and should have been PM'd to an official staff member if the OP truly wanted to help the RaspPi people stay on top. A public forum which is meant to provide a great resource for the community, is not a place to be spreading rumour/speculation/negativity about the product the forum is provided for.

Common sense prevails.

lev eller wrote:

 

It doesn't take a minute to see why a moderator would take issue with the post concerned. The information contained within-it is business related (not community related) and should have been PM'd to an official staff member if the OP truly wanted to help the RaspPi people stay on top. A public forum which is meant to provide a great resource for the community, is not a place to be spreading rumour/speculation/negativity about the product the forum is provided for.

 

Common sense prevails.

Reading the whole thread also prevails. Reasons for posting on forum explained. Negativity not intended or, indeed, implied.

My issue was not with a moderator taking issue, my issue is with getting banned for trying to be helpful. The post is still there. If the moderator was concerned with the things you mention, the post would have been removed. That would have been common sense.

lev eller wrote:

 

It doesn't take a minute to see why a moderator would take issue with the post concerned. The information contained within-it is business related (not community related) and should have been PM'd to an official staff member if the OP truly wanted to help the RaspPi people stay on top. A public forum which is meant to provide a great resource for the community, is not a place to be spreading rumour/speculation/negativity about the product the forum is provided for.

 

Common sense prevails.

Reading the whole thread also prevails. Reasons for posting on forum explained. Negativity not intended or, indeed, implied.

My issue was not with a moderator taking issue, my issue is with getting banned for trying to be helpful. The post is still there. If the moderator was concerned with the things you mention, the post would have been removed. That would have been common sense.

@Michael - you needed to PM a staff member rather than create a thread on a public forum. Your reply in the same thread details how you were apparently trying to trigger the Rasp Pi staffers to sort some kind of issues out that were mentioned in the article. Is that your job on public forums? To publicly trigger people? If you care for a community, you add value to it, you don't try and trigger the staff publicly, you PM them privately and help them.

Side note. If I had moderated you, I would have deleted your thread and asked you to PM it to staffers in future. Not banned you. But that is me. Forums attract attention seekers who crave an audience at any cost - I imagine, knowing tech sites well - Rasp Pi has attracted its fair share of attention seekers.

The Rasp Pi is an educational device with an impressive mission statement. It's forums are for educating and collaborating and building. Not the usual internet bickering.

@jamodio - the mods sometime answer questions that were never asked? Ok. Sounds perculiar, but I wouldn't mark them down for that. They treat you as a second class dumb newbie? I guarantee you they have never called you that, therefore that is an emotional response from your own insecurities. As for the statements about issues ... why make STATEMENTS about issues?! How odd. On a public forum? Just email the business directly. If you can provide links to the conversations about 'issues' where the mods then label you as a troll, I can already imagine how the conversation went. Come on, we see it on forums everyday. The moderators should stay quiet? Rasp Pi is an educational device, appealing to all age groups and differences, for people to experience, to learn, to grow - but you want the ability to moan and whine unmoderated and ruin all that? No, it's not mods that ruin forums - it's forum users. It's the reason I spoke up today. I get a Pi. I go for walk around the internet feeling invigorated. And stumble over people whining about not being able to whine at a place dedicated to people who want to learn and grow. I guarantee you that if people post genuine helpful posts and threads - they are left unmoderated ... prove that wrong?

@Morgaine - as I said to jamodio - take the issues to the companies - not to the public forums where everyone else is trying to learn and grow and enjoy. You say you can't moderate people into happiness - true - but you can moderate out the annoying whiners that bring the mood down 

If the 3 of you are saying the moderators in charge at the Rasp Pi forums are destroying the atmosphere and community by over-wielding their powers ... prove it. I'm sure that something as big and public as Rasp Pi needs the mods to keep everyone in check, and that is what they are doing. It's about education, not a social club for people trying to trigger responses. Got an issue? Email the companies. Then wait for a response.

Anyway, successful 1st day with Pi. Got my shopping list. Haven't got myself banned from the Rasp Pi forums. Should be a good few weeks learning it all. Thanks for the welcome!

Glad to have you on board, we really had a lack of fanboyism over here.

I hope you did your homework well and ordered the right power supply, the right usb hub and the right micro usb power cable.

I also hope you have the correct keyboard and mouse so that your happy mode will remain.

You don't have plans to try a webcam or an usb audio device on the Pi I assume? Those are not educational, so don't be suprised if they don't work.

In worst case you can start debugging the synoptic usb otg driver. It's open source so it shouldn't be an issue.

To what companies should we take our issues? Synoptics? Broadcom? The foundation maybe?

Right, they only have one employe on their paycheck and I believe it's for the PR stuff.

So, pretty logic people become dissapointed and show that feeling on the forum.

After all, not everybody is pleased with a 35$ (additional hardware costs not included) flashing led.

It's not about seeking attention, it's about the truth being hidden, twisted or denied.

The fanboyism you wrongly diagnosed is actually just an appreication for what they are trying to achieve with the Pi.

Your views on the device are fine. Move on then. Afterall it's only $35, right?!

As for your last sentence ... I hear the Illuminati are controlling the federation ...