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Pi vs BeagleBone-Black

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So, just over a year on from the initial availability of the R-Pi and the new BeagleBone Black is upon us.  They've obviously taken a leaf out of the RPF's playbook and produced a cost reduced version at a price only marginally above the Pi.

 

I find it interesting that the compromises are very different, for example there's a proper PMIC and the ethernet is not troubled by being connected to USB, however the on-board HDMI seems less capable.

 

Other differences are in the documentation, I'm currently viewing the pcb gerbers for the beaglebone..  Have yet to see any sign of those for the R-Pi a year later. There's even an up to date devicetree capable kernel too.

 

Technology has also moved on somewhat, we get a 1GHz Cortex A8 which is better than the Pi, along with various other stuff and lots more GPIO's too.

 

Ok, so it's clear that I like the look of the new beaglebone, and given the price I'm likely to put any further R-Pi plans on hold until I have a chance to play with this. It's also making things like the Olinuxino-maxi I bought recently look very slow/expensive while still being cheaper than the similarly specced Olinuxino-A13

 

Some details of the beaglebone-black here http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack

 

What do the rest of you think ?   I don't expect this to displace the Pi anytime soon, but I expect it to be very attractive to those people who don't simply want to put XBMC on it and duct tape it to the back of the TV..

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  • mynameisJim wrote:

     

    Stuart Richards wrote:

     

    Billy Thornton wrote:

     

    I'm reckoning you gonna have to ask Roku (stuff like this is secret for obvious reasons), but I'm reckoning  in the single digit millions, probably about 3, given the number of devices the chip is in.

     

    My guess is that there are significantly less BCM2835 SoC based non-Raspberry Pi devices in existence than there are Raspberry Pis.  I think there is a strong possibility Broadcom had a significant number of BCM2835 SoCs that they couldn't sell prior to the Pi.

    Well I would say see my previous post to this exact statement you made just a couple of posts ago, but it would seem the police state keeps censoring them so here it is again:  That is not the way chip manufacturing works.  You don't build a huge excess, especially if you're continuing with the idea that the chip was a failure.  You build to meet the order and while I keep saying you might end up with just a small buffer to fill capacity, the reality of the situation is that, more often than not, you force the individual to purchase in quantities equal to a production batch quantity.

     

    My statements are not identical.  To clarify, when I referred to devices in my first post about this I meant products developed, not units sold.  I was referring to units sold in my subsequent post.  As far as I am aware the Roku 2 line of products is the only one prior to the Raspberry Pi that use the BCM2835 SoC.  I'm sure Broadcom didn't develop the BCM2835 exclusively for Roku and therefore must've been disappointed by the total number of design wins it achieved.

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  • mynameisJim wrote:

     

    Stuart Richards wrote:

     

    Billy Thornton wrote:

     

    I'm reckoning you gonna have to ask Roku (stuff like this is secret for obvious reasons), but I'm reckoning  in the single digit millions, probably about 3, given the number of devices the chip is in.

     

    My guess is that there are significantly less BCM2835 SoC based non-Raspberry Pi devices in existence than there are Raspberry Pis.  I think there is a strong possibility Broadcom had a significant number of BCM2835 SoCs that they couldn't sell prior to the Pi.

    Well I would say see my previous post to this exact statement you made just a couple of posts ago, but it would seem the police state keeps censoring them so here it is again:  That is not the way chip manufacturing works.  You don't build a huge excess, especially if you're continuing with the idea that the chip was a failure.  You build to meet the order and while I keep saying you might end up with just a small buffer to fill capacity, the reality of the situation is that, more often than not, you force the individual to purchase in quantities equal to a production batch quantity.

     

    My statements are not identical.  To clarify, when I referred to devices in my first post about this I meant products developed, not units sold.  I was referring to units sold in my subsequent post.  As far as I am aware the Roku 2 line of products is the only one prior to the Raspberry Pi that use the BCM2835 SoC.  I'm sure Broadcom didn't develop the BCM2835 exclusively for Roku and therefore must've been disappointed by the total number of design wins it achieved.

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