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Not booting with element14 sd card

hchattaway
hchattaway over 13 years ago

Hello

 

I had created an sd card using the latest Raspian image which did not work. I had thought it might have been because of the card. So I ordered the element 14 Raspian 4 gb sd card. Same thing. I have 2 Raspberry Pi B's. When I apply power the red light comes on, and the green lights for a second. Then no activity and no activity shown on the screen. This happens with both computers. I tried it with the bluetooth dongle plugged in and not plugged in.

 

Any ideas? What might be the usual suspects?


Thanks

Harold

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  • guzunty
    guzunty over 13 years ago

    Definitely try the above suggestions first, but here are some other things to look at.

     

    A very frequent cause of boot failure is a below specification power supply. Try swapping that out with a known good one. This discussed here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware#Power_Supply_Problems

     

    Once that is eliminated as a cause:

     

    Do you have an Ethernet cable plugged in? If so, you should definitely see more activity on those LEDs than just one flash on the rightmost LED.

     

    Do you have any hardware plugged onto the GPIO pins? If so, remove it until you get your Pi running.

     

    If you have another computer with a serial interface, you can wire it up to pins 6 and 8 of the GPIO. This is explained here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection What you should see is the root console output as the Pi is booting. These messages can help you understand how far into the boot process your Pi actually got, even if there is no monitor output.

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    hchattaway over 13 years ago in reply to guzunty

    Hello Derek,

     

    I tried just using the comp video cable... same problem.

     

    I checked the powersupply using the my meter on the TP1 and TP2 terminals. Meter read a solid 4.94 volts.

     

    I have no hardware on the GPIO pins.

     

    have not been able to try the serial interface.

     

    Alli continue to see is a solid red power light and very brief flash of the green light.

     

    bumming me out here.. I am very excited to get these going! I bought a fair amount of stuff to get into experimentation with this and an Arduino board. Fascinating stuff!

     

    Harold

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  • guzunty
    guzunty over 13 years ago in reply to hchattaway

    Hi Harold,

     

    There's a few more things to try yet .... Highly unlikely both Pi's are defective. (Did you buy both at the same time, btw?)

     

    Check the memory chip in the centre of the board, does it say Hynix? If so then there is a known incompatibility between older builds of Raspbian and the hardware build revision of the Pi boards you have.

     

    More detail here:

     

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3534

     

    If this is the case then you need to flash a clean, recently downloaded image of the OS (ie don't guess, go get a new image as of today). Make sure you follow the flash procedure exactly, you cannot just copy the image to the card. It requires a specific utility. I suggest using the Element14 card since we can at least be 100% sure the card is hardware compatible (I have never had an issue with any card I've used, but I read that it does happen). If this fixes the problem for you, I suggest you go complain loudly to Element14, they should not be shipping stale OS images.

     

    Hope that helps.

     

    Finally, BE CAREFUL when connecting an Arduino to an RPi. Arduino is 5v, RPi is 3.3v. Some Arduinos can be run at 3.3v  but make sure before connecting them. If your Arduino is 5v, you can use one of these addons to safely connect them:

     

    https://github.com/Guzunty/Pi/wiki

     

    (Disclosure, I curate this open source site)

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    guzunty over 13 years ago in reply to hchattaway

    Hi Harold,

     

    There's a few more things to try yet .... Highly unlikely both Pi's are defective. (Did you buy both at the same time, btw?)

     

    Check the memory chip in the centre of the board, does it say Hynix? If so then there is a known incompatibility between older builds of Raspbian and the hardware build revision of the Pi boards you have.

     

    More detail here:

     

    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3534

     

    If this is the case then you need to flash a clean, recently downloaded image of the OS (ie don't guess, go get a new image as of today). Make sure you follow the flash procedure exactly, you cannot just copy the image to the card. It requires a specific utility. I suggest using the Element14 card since we can at least be 100% sure the card is hardware compatible (I have never had an issue with any card I've used, but I read that it does happen). If this fixes the problem for you, I suggest you go complain loudly to Element14, they should not be shipping stale OS images.

     

    Hope that helps.

     

    Finally, BE CAREFUL when connecting an Arduino to an RPi. Arduino is 5v, RPi is 3.3v. Some Arduinos can be run at 3.3v  but make sure before connecting them. If your Arduino is 5v, you can use one of these addons to safely connect them:

     

    https://github.com/Guzunty/Pi/wiki

     

    (Disclosure, I curate this open source site)

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    hchattaway over 13 years ago in reply to guzunty

    hello Derek,

     

    It Worked!   My memory chip did say "Hynix". So I took a look at the dates on the element14 OS image that I just got, and they were dated from last October! So I downloaded the latest image, reimaged the same SD card, and it booted right up. So thanks very much for this help....now for some play time...

     

    I'll bring it up with element14...

     

    Thanks

    Harold

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  • guzunty
    guzunty over 13 years ago in reply to hchattaway

    Hi Harold,

     

    Delighted that worked out for you! Do please follow up with Element14, they charge a premium on those pre- installed cards because they are advertised work with any Pi you can buy. If they do not, the extra value they add is negated. In fact its worse than negated, since you had to waste time coming here for advice.

     

    When you do get around to interfacing your Arduino, perhaps you can thank me by visiting the Guzunty site on GitHub to see if our little open hardware/software board will be useful to you. Interfacing with 5v circuits is only one of its many talents. :-)

     

    best Derek

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    hchattaway over 13 years ago in reply to guzunty

    wow, i just got a call from Element 14 asking if everything went ok with my last order that had these sd cards on them... I explained what happened, and they are sending a coupon code for a future discount... first was nice to get a follow up call and then the code... nice service... I have more to order!

     

    Thanks

    Harold

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to hchattaway

    Harold,

      There is a discussion of the problem here:

         http://www.element14.com/community/message/72302

    which states that Element14 doesn't sell RPi's with Hynix memory,

    so your RPi's probably came from RS/Allied.

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