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Pidora 18 (Raspberry Pi Fedora Remix) Status Update

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e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

Hi All,

 

 

So over in CDOT, we have had a nice meeting on our future projects and the future of Pidora. (meeting notes can be found here: http://zenit.senecac.on.ca/wiki/index.php/OSTEP_Meeting_2013-06-03).

 

 

A little status update, agreene and myself(oatley) will be putting abit more energy into "getting the ball rolling" with Pidora over the next month or so. A blog is going to be set up to assist in giving out information on updates, fixes, enhancements, additions, etc(all of which should be tracked in our bug tracker). We are also thinking of some ways to help get people in the community to help out(but haven't gone much further in that just yet).

 

Plans for firmware updates seem to be leaning towards automatically building all updates and putting them in the updates-testing repo, that way we can bring the most stable and major firmware updates to our updates, but if people would like "the most recent" they can enable updates testing (This is a plan and is not in effect yet).

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    Andrew,

      Thanks for the minutes!

    It's encouraging to see that fundamental issues are being addressed, particuarly:

     

    "The future of Pidora--

    • How much energy do we want to put into this?
      • Low energy: just build what's in Fedora
      • High energy: make this the preferred/top Raspi distro"

     

    It's important that if you plan to make this a low-energy project, that

    this be clear to your audience.  Otherwise, it looks like you're spending

    lots of energy, but with very little to show for it, which isn't at all good for

    your résumés.

     

    I would like to point out the difference between a meeting agenda and

    meeting minutes, because these "minutes" look more like an agenda to me.


    Meeting minutes normally say who attended the meeting.  These don't.

    Meeting agendas list the topics to be discussed, but meeting minutes

    also summarize the discussions, particularly including any decisions made

    and any action items assigned, and any decisions deferred to a future meeting.

    Meeting minutes normally say when the previous meeting was, with a link

    to its minutes, and when the next meeting will be.

    Staff meeting minutes normally say what each staff member has been working

    on since the previous meeting, and what their priorities are for the next work period.


    I would suggest as topics for the next meeting:

       a) RPi camera support

       b) Wayland preview support

       c) NOOBS support

       d) pixman armv6 optimizations

       e) status of each open bug report

       f) GPU accelerated X11 plans, if any

       g)  support plans for soft-float Fedora Remix 18

       h) Pidora 19 plans, if any

     

    notes: 

    for (e) bug report status, please include status of the 25 open bug reports in

    your previous tracker at:

       https://fedorahosted.org/arm/report/1

    such as #63:  "fxup_cd.dat and start_cd.elf are missing from the RPM making booting the raspberry with gpu_mem=16 impossible"

     

    for (h) Pidora 19 plans, I suggest that with limited resources you would attract more users

    by focusing your effort on improving Pidora 18, even if it means deferring Pidora 19,

    rather than continuing the apparent policy of always focusing effort on the next release to the

    detriment of the current release users.

     

    I note that there have been significant changes in plans since the RPi Fedora Remix started,

    beyond the obvious loss of market position as the RPF recommended distro,

    notably, X11 GPU acceleration has apparently been abandoned, leaving little hope for

    significantly improved browser speed; Fedora ARM has abandoned pre-armv7 architectures,

    making armv6 support more difficult; plans for armv6 as a primary Fedora architecture have been

    abandoned; plans for mainlining the RPi kernel changes have apparently been abandoned;

    any hope for including RPi in a unified ARM kernel has apparently been abandoned;

    any hope for youtube viewing in a browser window on Pidora has apparently been abandoned

    and instead we have NOOBS for switching between xbmc and Pidora.

     

    Given these changes in plans, it would not be unreasonable to announce that Pidora

    support is not planned beyond Pidora 18, so you can focus your efforts on armv8 and

    similar projects that have long-term viability.

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Thanks for the posts, I wondered any hope of GPU support seeing the light at all. RPi's would make sense as old x86 based PC replacements. My daughters have a Pentium4 and PentiumIII computer each and we're not switching over to the RPi's we already own due to the lack of GPU support in browsers and elsewhere - namely, proper Adobe Flash support rather than Gnash which is useless...

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    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago in reply to e14 Contributor

    Thanks for the posts, I wondered any hope of GPU support seeing the light at all. RPi's would make sense as old x86 based PC replacements. My daughters have a Pentium4 and PentiumIII computer each and we're not switching over to the RPi's we already own due to the lack of GPU support in browsers and elsewhere - namely, proper Adobe Flash support rather than Gnash which is useless...

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