Just starting out

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

I managed to get 'my' unit to work with both HD and a scart TV.

I found out about the startx command (why don't they tell you about that in the initial blurb?) and I've messed about with various programs.

What I've not yet worked out is how to enter simple line by line programs, like those shown in MagPi for python.

It seems to assume that you will know how to start up something that will let you enter a set of program commands and then be able to run it.  I'm sorry, but I really do need a beginners guide to how to do this. I had to give up on Linux Red Hat because the books assumed that you knew what you were doing and the screen never ever fitted the monitor, nor were the colours any good, so I gave up. With the Raspberry Pi I was hoping for a "guide to what you need to do to get going" but now I'm doing a hunt and pounce on stuff across the internet to try and get going.

Maybe my grandson will have a better clue and can tell me what needs to be done.

AH well, onwards and upwards, as they say...

David Ackrill wrote:

 

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

 

I managed to get 'my' unit to work with both HD and a scart TV.

 

I found out about the startx command (why don't they tell you about that in the initial blurb?) and I've messed about with various programs.

 

What I've not yet worked out is how to enter simple line by line programs, like those shown in MagPi for python.

 

It seems to assume that you will know how to start up something that will let you enter a set of program commands and then be able to run it.  I'm sorry, but I really do need a beginners guide to how to do this. I had to give up on Linux Red Hat because the books assumed that you knew what you were doing and the screen never ever fitted the monitor, nor were the colours any good, so I gave up. With the Raspberry Pi I was hoping for a "guide to what you need to do to get going" but now I'm doing a hunt and pounce on stuff across the internet to try and get going.

 

Maybe my grandson will have a better clue and can tell me what needs to be done.

 

AH well, onwards and upwards, as they say...

Seriously go talk in the official raspberrypi.org forums, they are insanely helpful with questions like these.

Thanks for that,

Some of those commands look like others that I used in NOS back in the days of TCP/IP over radio.

So much to do, so little time to achieve it in.

David Ackrill wrote:

 

Some of those commands look like others that I used in NOS back in the days of TCP/IP over radio.

There's more than just a hint of similarity there.  KA9Q himself even called NOS the "Linux of its time".

coder27 wrote:

 

David,

  Just a suggestion, on the other forum be very careful what you say and how

you say it.

   http://www.element14.com/community/thread/20081?start=49&tstart=0

Yeah my favourite part of that thread is how latter on

http://www.element14.com/community/message/61522#61522

you find out that he wasn't banned for no reason as he claimed in the first post but because he was attacking a mod.

Nice list of common commands shabaz, very helpful.  For programming I've always enjoyed using nano from the command line.  It's not a full on IDE or anything, but it gives just enough highlighting to help you out when you're brain's feeling fuzzy.

coder27 wrote:

 

David,

  Just a suggestion, on the other forum be very careful what you say and how

you say it.

   http://www.element14.com/community/thread/20081?start=49&tstart=0

Blimey mate - just cos you got banned, doenst mean the whole place is defective. Sour grapes? I've seen stuff on their way more off the wall that stuff I got chucked off here. Not been their recenttly though, been trying to catchup

Element 14 forums few thousand members. Raspberry Pi forums, 60k members. They go to be doing something right, you reckon?

Funny, just took a look a that link what was posted, and the guy who started it seems to now be back on the raspberry pi forums and I think is the same dude who organsied the cambridge UK jam. Does he post here any more?

you find out that he wasn't banned for no reason as he claimed in the first post but because he was attacking a mod.

Since when is attacking a mod grounds for being banned?  

You seem to enjoy taking frequent swipes at the mods here.  Are you trying to get banned?

What's classy is banning your biggest supporters.

Michael Horne, the dude who organized the Cambridge UK jam.

Banned.

David Ross, the dude who loudly promotes the Pi:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/tivolicloudenablement/tags/pi%22?lang=en

Banned.

Jamodio, the dude who organizes Pi summer camps at Geekdom,

and who found the Pi's circuitry error causing previously unexplained

chip overheating?

Banned.

Steve Read, the dude who works in his local after-school pi club,

Banned.

Morgaine, an official E14 Top Member who alerted Liz to the reputation

of Eben's book publisher.

Banned.

Jim Manley, perhaps the RPF's all-time biggest promoter,

publicly censured for supposedly implying that Eben was a liar.

Teasle: He was just another drifter who broke the law!

Trautman: Vagrancy wasn't it? That's gonna look real good on his grave stone in Arlington: Here lies John Rambo, winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, survivor of countless incursions behind enemy lines. Killed for vagrancy in Jerkwater, USA.

What's also bad is some of the technical threads I notice get killed, and that is really bizarre.

I remember on e14 forums someone had some queries with a H-bridge circuit, and

looking at the original thread on the RPI forum ( http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=24526 ),

it was killed, because an engineer (grahamed) actually spoke up politely and explained the circuit. He even wanted to PM,

but the thread was locked. I don't know if it put him off or not, he's posted 53 times.

coder27 wrote:

 

 

you find out that he wasn't banned for no reason as he claimed in the first post but because he was attacking a mod.

 

 

Since when is attacking a mod grounds for being banned?  

You seem to enjoy taking freqent swipes at the mods here.  Are you trying to get banned?

 

What's classy is banning your biggest supporters.

 

Michael Horne, the dude who organized the Cambridge UK jam.

Banned.

 

David Ross, the dude who loudly promotes the Pi:

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/tivolicloudenablement/tags/pi%22?lang=en

Banned.

 

Jamodio, the dude who organizes Pi summer camps at Geekdom,

and who found the Pi's circuitry error causing previously unexplained

chip overheating?

Banned.

 

Steve Read, the dude who works in his local after-school pi club,

Banned.

 

Morgaine, an official E14 Top Member who alerted Liz to the reputation

of Eben's book publisher.

Banned.

 

Jim Manley, perhaps the RPF's all-time biggest promoter,

publicly censured for supposedly implying that Eben was a liar.

 

Teasle: He was just another drifter who broke the law!

Trautman: Vagrancy wasn't it? That's gonna look real good on his grave stone in Arlington: Here lies John Rambo, winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, survivor of countless incursions behind enemy lines. Killed for vagrancy in Jerkwater, USA.

Jim Manley - still on the Rapsi forums, still posting (when I last looked)

Micheal Horne. Not sure if its the same dude but I reckon he is - recantha2 - on the forums.

Morgaine. Well known around the internet for being banned from forums (is he really this guy?

When I look at the figures, I reckon I can make my own judgment - 60k users on the raspberry pi forums, you came up with 6 people, two of which are still part of the 60k. ANd four other you say are the raspberry pis biggest supporters? You reckon. I'm thinkin they are four people out of 10 of thousands. Not to disparage their stuff of course, that some good stuff. But biggest suppporters. Nah.

I'm a bygones be bygones type of fella, but Ireckon, you get banned, theres a reason. Usually a goodun.

but Ireckon, you get banned, theres a reason.

The reason was explained in the posting guidelines (up until August 2012).

"The Forum Administrators will be keeping the forum and blog comments under control. They are tribal creatures – offend or upset one and you risk offending and upsetting all.  Beware their wrath… "

You wrote:

But biggest suppporters. Nah.

Well, if you knew or cared anything about the foundation's educational goals,

you would know exactly how supportive these people have been and how

summarily they have been banned and/or censured for their contributions.

Classy, my friend, classy.

mynameisJim wrote:

 

Seriously go talk in the official raspberrypi.org forums, they are insanely helpful with questions like these.

I believe the element14 Community members in this Raspberry Pi group (8,773 total) have proven to be quite helpful, too.

As this thread has gone quite off topic from the original question posted it will be locked from further replies.  Feel free to start another thread to help David with any other helpful suggestions on helping him and his grandson with the Pi Projects. 

As this thread has gone quite off topic from the original question posted it will be locked from further replies.  Feel free to start another thread to help David with any other helpful suggestions on helping him and his grandson with the Pi Projects.