Raspberry Pi (Trading) Ltd. finally announced

Eben Upton responded to my question "why were you terminated as a director of the Raspberry Pi Foundation?" here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4148983&cid=44722739

I like the part about resigning in order to separate the control of the two entities,

"though I continue to run the Foundation on a day-to-day basis".  I think the whole point

of requiring charities to publicly declare their trustees is so that the public is clear about

who is running the charity on a day-to-day basis.

I wonder what title he may have used since resigning when signing RPF contracts, if any?

The R-pi offers a challenge to kids !!!  Anyone can buy a super laptop off the shelves these days,  but does not have a clue how it was put together and how it works.   The R-pi puts a light bulb in a kids head,, Heck no one is going to tell him how to set  it up,, it is HIS to do.     Like when I was a kid in the 60's,,,  I stole my sisters old roller skates,  then got in my dad's work shop and cut them in half.   Then a buddy of mine got a board and we cut it to fit the rollers,,then bolted the rollers on,,,  then we tested it,,, reworked it,,, painted it,,, then all of a sudden,,, Walla,,, a homemade skateboard !!!    Heck,, it was better than buying one off the shelf,, and we learned a lot of things !!   ( at the time they didn't have skateboards,  we made them ourselves for kicks )  

But do ya get my drift ??

Chuck Smith

But do ya get my drift ??

No, sorry I don't.  I can see how an RPi can be used to teach programming,

but not much differently from any other slow linux box.  The hardware isn't made to be

taken apart, you can't even upgrade the memory like on a standard PC.

Since most everything is integrated on the SoC, you can't understand the hardware

by pointing to discrete components, other than connectors and such. 

If you want to use PWM or ADC, an Arduino or BBB is probably better.

I know that it is difficult to communicate with text and words over a long distance and each of us having a unique perspective of how things work,  I apologize for that.    You are more than welcome to visit me sometime, or a group of you.   I live alone in a 4 bedroom home in Glasgow, Delaware in USA.  

My house is kinda a Man-house,  meaning that I put things where ever I want.  But I do keep things very clean.   I got little projects laying around in the rooms.   I got one table for my R-pi and books.   On another table I am putting together a model of an airplane called an A-10 Warthog,  it was a tank killer in world war II.  On another table I have water color painting projects,,, and so on and so on      I am really naive with the R-pi at this point,, but I ran into a R-pi club member (makers ).. so i may learn more soon.   I know all the basics of most computers,    I am just happy to see the r-pi cheap enough for kids.

Chuck Smith

I beg to differ too.   I got a 7 port USB port   and I have all the memory upgrade I want.   and I just bought that Chip Kit Pi  which allows me to hook up to other devices.   so there are possibilities out there,, huh ? 

Chuck Smith

A-10 Warthog,  it was a tank killer in world war II. 

Desert Storm as well.

yes.. the pilots and the ground troops love the A-10 warthog,,, comes in fast or slow and does its job.

I think the USA armed forces are going to keep it around,,, of course with some upgrades.

Chuck Smith

BTW, coder27,, where are u located,,, roundabout ? and name ?    My personal email is STARSON35@AOL.COM

and I have all the memory upgrade I want.

I think you missed my point.

I wasn't implying that the RPi had insufficient memory.

On a standard PC, kids can have all sorts of fun taking it apart and

reassembling, and learning about the different hardware functions,

like you mentioned taking skates apart.  You can take out the memory

and replace it with faster or denser memory, or just take it all apart to

scare your parents and then put it back together.

In contrast, the RPi memory can't be fiddled with.

(suitable safety precautions should of course be followed).

Sure the r-pi memory can be fiddled with,,, silly u     I got a 4gb card,,, and 8gb card,,, 16gb card  and right now I have a 32gb card in the slot,, and partitioned  ...

So ,, yes,, we can fiddle with r-pi memory,,,, but I know what u r talking about,,,

May I politely ask,,, are you a Lady or a gentleman ?  

You may call me Chuck

coder27 wrote:

 

So stop getting up in arms about the Foundation spliting into two divisions.  It is for the better anyway.    It allows them to employ people to do actual work rather than people having to do all the work ‘in their spare time’ as @JamesH likes to through around so often as an excuse for not fixing code.

Nobody is getting up in arms about the Foundation splitting into two divisions. 

People are getting up in arms about the formation of a for-profit company without

making it clear what they are doing, for over a year, while claiming and allowing others

on their website to claim that it's all about charity and education, and claiming that they are mostly

unpaid volunteers because charities have strict rules prohibiting paying trustees and spouses.

Who are you worried about getting paid?  All those voluntaries who have been working so hard on the Raspberry Pi?  That seems a bit harsh considering that some of them spend a high percentage of their day working on documentation, software and much to your disbelieve Education releases for schools including promoting programming in schools.

BTW ‘splitting into two divisions’ has the same meaning as ‘formation of for-profit company’.

coder27 wrote:

 

So stop getting up in arms about the Foundation spliting into two divisions.  It is for the better anyway.    It allows them to employ people to do actual work rather than people having to do all the work ‘in their spare time’ as @JamesH likes to through around so often as an excuse for not fixing code.

Nobody is getting up in arms about the Foundation splitting into two divisions. 

People are getting up in arms about the formation of a for-profit company without

making it clear what they are doing, for over a year, while claiming and allowing others

on their website to claim that it's all about charity and education, and claiming that they are mostly

unpaid volunteers because charities have strict rules prohibiting paying trustees and spouses.

Who are you worried about getting paid?  All those voluntaries who have been working so hard on the Raspberry Pi?  That seems a bit harsh considering that some of them spend a high percentage of their day working on documentation, software and much to your disbelieve Education releases for schools including promoting programming in schools.

BTW ‘splitting into two divisions’ has the same meaning as ‘formation of for-profit company’.

Who are you worried about getting paid?

BTW ‘splitting into two divisions’ has the same meaning as ‘formation of for-profit company’.

The concern isn't that workers aren't getting paid.  Nor is the concern that the Foundation has been split.

The concern is the lack of announcement of significant changes to the status quo, particularly when

there has been such an extensive prior emphasis and reliance on "we're all volunteers" and "we're a charity"

and "we're all about education".

The concern is the lack of announcement of significant changes to the status quo, particularly when

there has been such an extensive prior emphasis and reliance on "we're all volunteers" and "we're a charity"

and "we're all about education".

Refer to previous post.