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packetgeek over 11 years ago

A recent discussion, which appears to have (thankfully) been removed, involved a technology which was doubted by many.  Ignoring that it was inappropriate to advertise the thing an off-topic post, the thing that made me think that the tool was just more snake oil was the vendor's statement: "If I tell you everything you want to know,'I'd be giving the patents away!! and I cannot afford to do that."  If the author of that statement has a patent, then the information is already publicly available.  His statement makes me believe there is no patent and no actual working technology.

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    R_Phoenix over 11 years ago

    Thanks e14 for pulling those articles.

    I was able to read it when it was first posted and I had a good chuckle. While we have yet to understand all forms of energy exchange and the efficiency of most applications can be much improved on - there is no such thing as "free energy".

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to R_Phoenix

    I believe that sun and wind are "free energy" sources and lucky we are,..... we have not yet started a war about it. image

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    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Interestingly, the only one mentioning RF is Richard Cullin.

    There is some hint around it because of the frequencies they see doing the test, but there was no mention of capturing radiated (ie in free space).

    You already get radiated while using Wireless, so don't worry.

     

     

     

    He did say (directly because element14 seemed to pass all my details)

    The device in te Exodus and PowerStic packaging sits

    right across the USB power and gnd. It does nothing to laptop settings since it

    is not connected to the data lines. It simply harvests noise from the SERDES

    data transfers and such or other I/O activity on the I/O supply, processes the noise, and feeds it

    back into the system for power reduction.

     

    Looking at the documents, the device is basically improving the performance of the voltage regulator. (ie efficency)

    The comment on their page

    Maximum battery life extension is seen when the user engages in a high amount of Computer and Portable Device Input/Output activity such as USB data transfers, CDROM activity, Keyboard/Mouse activity of any kind, or other Human/Computer interaction (see the non-exclusive list below).  Minimum extension of battery life is seen with the Computer or Portable Device simply powered on, with no I/O or Human Interface Activity

    .and the image

     

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    would suggest that the claimed savings may not be seen in ALL devices ... a challenge test could prove it.

     

    I do know that switch mode supplies are electrically noisy, but whether a few components can improve this and therefore save your battery is the $64k question.

     

     

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    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Interestingly, the only one mentioning RF is Richard Cullin.

    There is some hint around it because of the frequencies they see doing the test, but there was no mention of capturing radiated (ie in free space).

    You already get radiated while using Wireless, so don't worry.

     

     

     

    He did say (directly because element14 seemed to pass all my details)

    The device in te Exodus and PowerStic packaging sits

    right across the USB power and gnd. It does nothing to laptop settings since it

    is not connected to the data lines. It simply harvests noise from the SERDES

    data transfers and such or other I/O activity on the I/O supply, processes the noise, and feeds it

    back into the system for power reduction.

     

    Looking at the documents, the device is basically improving the performance of the voltage regulator. (ie efficency)

    The comment on their page

    Maximum battery life extension is seen when the user engages in a high amount of Computer and Portable Device Input/Output activity such as USB data transfers, CDROM activity, Keyboard/Mouse activity of any kind, or other Human/Computer interaction (see the non-exclusive list below).  Minimum extension of battery life is seen with the Computer or Portable Device simply powered on, with no I/O or Human Interface Activity

    .and the image

     

    image

     

    would suggest that the claimed savings may not be seen in ALL devices ... a challenge test could prove it.

     

    I do know that switch mode supplies are electrically noisy, but whether a few components can improve this and therefore save your battery is the $64k question.

     

     

    Mark

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