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jack & full duplex possible

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Former Member over 11 years ago

Hi all,

 

I was wondering if it's possible to use Jack?

If yes, is full duplex (in & out) possible?

What can I expect for the latency (less than 20ms, more than 100 ms)?

 

If not, with Alsa is it possible to have analog in & analog out working at the same time?

 

Off-topic:

 

Some people are talking about this distribution that is featuring low latency / jack solution:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~eberdahl/Satellite/

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    Former Member over 11 years ago

    I was wondering if it's possible to use Jack?

    Yes.

    If yes, is full duplex (in & out) possible?

    Yes.

    What can I expect for the latency (less than 20ms, more than 100 ms)?

    Don't know, I've never tested latency in Jack. ALSA gives me 6 - 7 ms.

    If not, with Alsa is it possible to have analog in & analog out working at the same time?

    Yes.

    --

    Ragnar

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Wonderful! Is it better to use Alsa (less CPU, lower latency)? I was wondering if it is also a good idea to run everything in root (I know it's never a good idea normally) - but for getting the best performance out of the raspberry pi... Should I try to apply those modifications: http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/raspberrypi

     

    Thanks!

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I have problem:

    git reset --hard 4639d2b773b318d4b0409f67d3d5e73a513ba64b

    fatal: Could not parse object '4639d2b773b318d4b0409f67d3d5e73a513ba64b'.

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Georg!

     

    Thank you so much for this. Will try to find the time asap to confirm that it's working. With your permission, I will upload the rt-kernel with module so that people can simply do Step 53 (or maybe you already share the files somewhere)?

     

    Talk to you soon

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    @ Jan Tomasik

    Hi Jan,

    what does

    git status

    say?

    Georg

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I tried both, of course, it's always the same:

    git reset --hard 4639d2b773b318d4b0409f67d3d5e73a513ba64b

    fatal: Could not parse object '4639d2b773b318d4b0409f67d3d5e73a513ba64b'.

     

    the object does not exist.

     

    git status

    # On branch rpi-3.12.y

    nothing to commit (working directory clean)

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Jan,

    you are right. Maybe I made a mistake with git and now have the gravity (movie) effect: Detached sources and lost in space? ;-)

    Hope there is time enough to find a solution for that soon. I'll let you know.

    Georg (without having fun)

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Jan,

     

    please have a look at http://blog.georgmill.de/2014/04/29/compile-wolfson-audio-card-driver-for-kernel-3-12-y-a-new-try/

    Test and report,  please. Here I'm able to use the Wolfson card full duplex with jackd and calf-plugins. I routed the two onboard mics through calf reverb and then trough calf phaser to system playback. What an echooooooooo ;-)

    With much more fun than ever !

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Many thanks Georg

    I used your kernel source code to create patch for Runeaudio with Wolfson Audio Card and Power-on-off circuit.

    The only problem is in boot with "vc_cma: dma_declare_contiguous (11800000, d400000) failed", I used the workaround described in http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=6432

    Otherwise, it works great, thanks for the great work.

     

    Re: Instructions for compiling the wolfson audio card kernel drivers and supported use cases

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Georg,

     

    So sorry. I am pretty new to Linux and the RPi. Is there a benefit to using your method over just flashing my pi with Wolfson's distro of raspbian with the drivers already installed? I understand by cross compiling the kernel, you can add the Wolfson drivers to an existing distro that you have on your RPi, but I am a new user. Am I better off just using Wolfson's prepackaged distribution? I want to use JACK on a headless setup for an audio FX unit. I will be writing the .cpp files using JACK's process callback. Thank you so much for your help

     

    -Rob

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Rob,

    it depends on what you want to do. If you want to develop your files on a stable kernel version (which you should do) you should make use of the precompiled image provided by wolfson. My version is an unofficial version for testing purposes only built upon an git snapshot. If you use my version you are ALONE! You will get no support from wolfson and from me. Sorry.

     

    -Georg

    "Happiness is lack of information"

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Georg,

     

    Thank you so much for sharing the precompiled rt-kernel for raspbian! It works very well, but I do get a lots of:

    delay of 228987.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 11549.000; restart ...

    ...

    I am wondering if you get the same output in the console (I am starting jackd1 headless). Here's the full story:

    Wolfson Audio Card for Raspberry Pi - linux.autostatic.com

     

    Do you have any idea how to fix this?

    Thanks again!

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Georg,

     

    Thank you so much for sharing the precompiled rt-kernel for raspbian! It works very well, but I do get a lots of:

    delay of 228987.000 usecs exceeds estimated spare time of 11549.000; restart ...

    ...

    I am wondering if you get the same output in the console (I am starting jackd1 headless). Here's the full story:

    Wolfson Audio Card for Raspberry Pi - linux.autostatic.com

     

    Do you have any idea how to fix this?

    Thanks again!

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