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Creating a PI4, USB3 power connection.

jeromehess
jeromehess over 5 years ago

OK, Im probably taking the LONG way around this, but Im having a lot of fun and learning stuff so maybe if you could help answer my question than point out how ridiculous it is and that there a MUCH simpler way.......

 

I want to power things from battery, no biggie there are LOTS of RASPI battery packs out there.

 

But there 2 issues, that I see:

     1) most of them are kind of small 3700mwAh or so,

AND

     2) all of them that I have seen, currently, end in a micro USB2 connector

 

so I found a nice battery seems big enough for what I want, but of course IT has a barrel connector on it.

 

SO rather than ruin the way the battery is currently constructed I bought a female barrel connecter, and IM ready to wire it up!

 

But from what I can find,  USBC/3. has 2 sets of power wires, where as micro USB2 has only 2.

 

Do I solder the 2 + and 2 - together and then onto barrel connector?

 

Do I only NEED the 2 wires that are used in micro USB2?

 

Im sure I'M overthinking this, but my college electronics class was many many years ago

 

Ideas and suggestions appreciated.

 

J

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    0 gdstew over 5 years ago

    Hi,

     

    A question first. Does the battery you bought have a buck, boost, or buck/boost DC/DC converter to convert the battery voltage to the +5V the Pi uses?

    If it doesn't you are going to have to buy one that can supply at least 3 amps at 5V.

     

    The USB 3 C connector has 4 power/ground pins so that it doesn't care which way you plug it in, it just works. You should be able to use just 2 wires

    because the 2 + and 2 - connector pins are connected together on the Pi PCB. You need to use 18 AWG (gauge) wire for both wires to handle 3 amps.

     

    It is never a bad idea to be cautious when connecting DC power to an electronic device. They tend to best case not work, or worst case stop working

    forever when you do it wrong.

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    0 gdstew over 5 years ago

    Hi,

     

    A question first. Does the battery you bought have a buck, boost, or buck/boost DC/DC converter to convert the battery voltage to the +5V the Pi uses?

    If it doesn't you are going to have to buy one that can supply at least 3 amps at 5V.

     

    The USB 3 C connector has 4 power/ground pins so that it doesn't care which way you plug it in, it just works. You should be able to use just 2 wires

    because the 2 + and 2 - connector pins are connected together on the Pi PCB. You need to use 18 AWG (gauge) wire for both wires to handle 3 amps.

     

    It is never a bad idea to be cautious when connecting DC power to an electronic device. They tend to best case not work, or worst case stop working

    forever when you do it wrong.

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    0 jeromehess over 5 years ago in reply to gdstew

    Gary thanks for the info, I was moving in that direction but I had forgotten th 18 gauge wire idea

    Unfortunately the battery didn't have a buck board so I bought one. Ok actually I bought half a dozen. Good thing too, the first one flared green and all the magic smoke escaped. image

     

    J

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    0 gdstew over 5 years ago in reply to jeromehess

    Jerome,

     

    Glad I could help. Sorry my observation about stop working forever came to pass with the dc converter, I am happy that it wasn't the Pi. Over my

    40+ years in electronics I've seen my share of magic smoke so I know how easy it is to make it when you're in a hurry or just not paying quite enough

    attention. And I usually buy a couple of backups too when I can just in case ...

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