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The Raspberry Pi 5 Case and Active Cooler are available for some, how do they look?

cstanton
cstanton over 1 year ago

Raspberry Pi Active Cooler for Raspberry Pi 5

box

The size of this box is about 1/6th of the volume of a Raspberry Pi 5 case, being about half its length and about the same width, and half its height.

The heatsink and fan itself is rather simple in its design. 

I am surprised by the fan not pulling air over the heatsink fins, and those fins being rather uniform. I'm certain they help to pull heat away from the chips, but without active air going over all of it, I suspect its capability is a bit diminished.

The fan though, is over the top of where the processor lies, so that will be doing most of the work anyway. It has a 4 wire connection to the Raspberry Pi, allowing for feedback as to how fast it is spinning, along with control over how fast it spins. Including 5v power and ground.

heatsink fan

The heatsink comes with three pads, probably to help level out the heatsink more than anything, but the areas to which it attaches are the power circuitry, wireless LAN shield and the processor. There are no pads on the RAM or RP1.

pads

Now if we compare this to the Raspberry Pi Case for the Raspberry Pi 5, we only get a small heatsink, which is surprising considering the size and pads on the dedicated heatsink.

case

Now, you can still have the dedicated heatsink attached to the Raspberry Pi 5 and use the case, but you then need to disconnect the fan inside the case and throw away this small, now spare, heatsink.

I find it weird that the 'standalone' heatsink would be such a monster of size compared to what's suggested to use in the case, especially since inside a case you're going to want to pull away and move a lot more heat at once.

And no, you can't connect the case fan and the dedicated heatsink fan at the same time. If you want to, you can remove the fan from the dedicated heatsink and rely on the case fan instead, but that feels a bit weird. I'll have to do some benchmarks and tests to see what the best setup is.

Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5

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The Raspberry Pi Case is very slick, it has a smooth, nice design and it comes apart really easily. If you have a Raspberry Pi 5 and want it to sit on your desk, this is something that will keep the dust off. Talking of 'off' though, I can see you will mainly keep the lid off if you want to be able to use anything significant, like the GPIO or keep the device cool. 

case internals

The internal design is reasonably solid, giving good access to the GPIO header, and we have the introduction of an active fan cooler. We also have a small heatsink to apply to the processor to help wick that heat away, but as we observed, just why do we have a dedicated heatsink which attaches to more components, but the case doesn't appear to be designed for this?

Well in typical use the Raspberry Pi is probably fine with this setup, having the smaller heatsink and an active fan is likely more than enough if you're sitting with using the device as a desktop computer replacement or you're fiddling with your bits on the GPIO and bit-banging away, but if you want to do a bit more heavy lifting then you're likely going to need that more dedicated heatsink, and you will probably remove this secondary internal fan. 

I think they possibly missed a trick without having a vent on the lid, if you want to keep your Pi cool, you're going to have that lid off most of the time because it impedes airflow and that might affect how fast your Raspberry Pi 5 runs, but ultimately we know that it will be perfectly safe and still function, even with it on, because of the smart way in which the device will scale back its speed to accommodate the temperature requirements.

I may just have to alter that fan header to see if I can run both at once though, it's a common 'hack' used on desktop computers, maybe it will apply here!

How will you use your Raspberry Pi 5?

HATS off, HATS on? Or will you have it sat with the lid on, coding away? What modifications do you want to do to the cooling of the Pi 5? Have you seen any other, custom coolers yet?

I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago

    I can see someone selling an alternate lid with a vent grill in it. I would probably hack some grill slots  into the lid.

    Is the accessory heatsink/fan actually a blower that sends air out the side towards the heatsink fins?

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago in reply to dougw

    It is a sideways blowing blower.

    I ordered a Pi, the cooler and a power supply a day or so after the announcement on E14. The cooler arrived the other day but the Pi isn't promised until mid January 2024.

    MK

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  • maxpowerr
    maxpowerr over 1 year ago

    It’s not that I’ve seen custom cooling, I haven’t even seen Raspberry Pi 5 on sale.))

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  • robogary
    robogary over 1 year ago

    Pi Top 5 ? 

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 1 year ago in reply to dougw
    dougw said:
    Is the accessory heatsink/fan actually a blower that sends air out the side towards the heatsink fins?
    michaelkellett said:
    It is a sideways blowing blower.

    No, unfortunately, it is not at all a sideways blower, it's entirely vertical.

    The fan is entirely solid plastic all around it.

    I am sorry, it appears I was wrong, it does have a gap around the side, but because of the design of the heatsink being practically vertical against it, it almost works as though it is solid all around, the fins really should have been orientated differently.

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    There is about a 1-1.5 millimetre gap between the bottom of the fan and the heatsink, but otherwise it's just a fan sat on top of metal butting up against the fins and blowing out the side.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago in reply to cstanton

    Does that mean some of the air exits in the direction of the fins?

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to dougw

    There already appears to be a vent in the new case

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    beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to dougw

    It does according to the design team

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgtdYf3qegA&t=1450s

    I guess that it deflects off the metal plate and it exits the gap under the fan in all directions including over the heatsink 

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 1 year ago in reply to dougw
    dougw said:
    Does that mean some of the air exits in the direction of the fins?

    Possibly, but we're not talking about a lot, and it's certainly not focused on the fins, it goes in every direction. The intention is evidently to mainly cool above the main processor, which it does well.

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    Source: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/heating-and-cooling-raspberry-pi-5/ 

    Though there's probably not much choice when it comes to 5v fans this size, I haven't seen (though I haven't searched for) something more like this:

    image

    Which would in fact blow sideways across the heatsink fins.

    beacon_dave said:

    There already appears to be a vent in the new case

    The 'gap' in the lid helps, but it's not really a focused, directional airflow or a reinforcement of air pressure (you also have the vent underneath the Raspberry Pi) and it does still add a little to the temperature, but these are niggles

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    Source: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/heating-and-cooling-raspberry-pi-5/ 

    I'd assume this chart is purely using the fan embedded in the case rather than the active cooler.

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    dougw over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Interesting video. It explains that  it is a blower style fan and is supposed to blow out through the fins, and it keeps the MCU about 10 degrees cooler than the other fan which fits in the case. And it has 50,000 hour bearings, and it is quiet - very nice.

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