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A new RPI Pico in the works?

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scottiebabe over 1 year ago

Eben Upton Hints at an RP2040 Successor, Promises a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5 in 2024

"We know what people don't like [and] what people do like," Upton says, "and we have a chip team."

I will call a spade a spade and say the sleep current of the RP2040 @ 1 mA is atrocious. I sincerely hope they improve the sleep current.

I think the QSPI memory controller could be improved as well.

Maybe more PIO memory...

But I don't have that many criticism about the pico.. 

Does the pico have any sore points for you?

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    michaelkellett over 1 year ago

    The main reason that I don't use it at all is the lack of support in Keil MDK. Keil/ARM expect the micro supplier to make the necessary integration files but RPi have obviously not thought this worthwhile. I use the Keil tools all the time - so it really matters to me - others might not find it an issue at all.

    But there are other reasons too, lack of internal flash, odd peripherals -  the PIO is interesting but not very mainstream. The ADC is rudimentary (poor performance, only 4 channels). The timers are not  patch on what ST and others offer.

    The other big reason is that a lot of my work is designs that will be produced commercially  - and the RPI crew are not generally considered to be a serious chip supplier. That may not be fair (although I think it shows in the data sheet and support materials) but the hard fact is that they make only the one chip. I did look at ti quite hard (at RP2040) a couple of years ago but my customer preferred Giga Devices - although Chinese they look more like people seem to expect a chip supplier to look.

    MK

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    michaelkellett over 1 year ago

    The main reason that I don't use it at all is the lack of support in Keil MDK. Keil/ARM expect the micro supplier to make the necessary integration files but RPi have obviously not thought this worthwhile. I use the Keil tools all the time - so it really matters to me - others might not find it an issue at all.

    But there are other reasons too, lack of internal flash, odd peripherals -  the PIO is interesting but not very mainstream. The ADC is rudimentary (poor performance, only 4 channels). The timers are not  patch on what ST and others offer.

    The other big reason is that a lot of my work is designs that will be produced commercially  - and the RPI crew are not generally considered to be a serious chip supplier. That may not be fair (although I think it shows in the data sheet and support materials) but the hard fact is that they make only the one chip. I did look at ti quite hard (at RP2040) a couple of years ago but my customer preferred Giga Devices - although Chinese they look more like people seem to expect a chip supplier to look.

    MK

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 1 year ago in reply to michaelkellett

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    Crickets 

    For one off projects/task/experiments I really like the PICO.

    But yes for commercial use there is a lot of competition out there...

    No input capture on any of the timers :(  

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    cstanton over 1 year ago in reply to scottiebabe
    scottiebabe said:
    Crickets 

    Do any commercial entities ever really advertise or explain what microcontroller products they're using? Especially to be searchable?

    I've found most don't want to talk about it or mention it publicly.

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    michaelkellett over 1 year ago in reply to cstanton

    I thought the same so I repeated sb's Google. Found a couple of threads on Reddit in which some unnamed companies were claimed to be using RP2040 but no good hard information.

    Generally big names only wish to be seen using parts from other big names.

    I'm just the same - my customers don't usually want me to let on who they are.

    MK

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    scottiebabe over 1 year ago in reply to cstanton

    It's a fair point. One would think we would hear about an IOT product using a pico-w 

    Like we hear about esp devices https://templates.blakadder.com/esp32.html 

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