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lcipir
lcipir over 9 years ago

Hello, I recently purchased a PI3 to use in one of my existing projects and the initial research I did led me to believe that the PI2 could be upgraded to PI3 by swapping out SD cards.  I got a PI3 from Adafruit and it would not work (4 slow blink followed by 4 fast blink ACT).  I asked them and they said that the PI3 has recently gone through a change that makes it not compatible with the PI2 OS.   The reason why I am asking is because my project is long and complicated and I would not want to have to redo the entire thing to go to PI3 since I made the project on PI2.  Any help feedback would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Dan

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    I'm using NOOBS sorry.

    Thank you for that link but I just got done with that one too.  No luck.  The only way I can get out of the looping 4 blinks that way is to replace two of those files with new (recovery.elf and recovery7.img).  Any other file replacements do nothing.  When I replace those two files it comes up but with a new NOOBS install. 

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 9 years ago

    The 4 flashes gives some indication to the problem relating to start.elf

    R-Pi Troubleshooting - eLinux.org

    beacon_dave Makes a good point. If true, the start.elf is not up to snuff for this processor. Did you actually get dist-update to work? This should correct the file mentioned.

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    I followed his instructions exactly.  the dist update didn't help either and ran it again as he said to do and it said it was all up to date.

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 9 years ago in reply to lcipir

    Hi Dan,

     

    This might be a good opportunity for disaster recovery testing.

     

    A big part of all of my software development is to make sure that everything can be rebuilt from scratch on a brand new machine.

    If it's not easy to re-build a project from scratch, then that's a risk.

     

    I may be very wrong, and yours may be much more complicated than what I've worked with, but usually there are a defined set of steps, installs, tweaks, updates, etc that need to be made to enable a project.

    Documenting those steps can be a real pain, but also a real life saver.

     

    Even if the SD card can be upgraded to Pi3 today, there's always the chance that Pi4 will provide new challenges. And there might one day be a better SBC at a better price that you will want to support.

     

    In your position I'd probably bite the bullet and see if I could figure out the install steps again. It might be less work than trying to figure out how to upgrade the SD card to work reliably on Pi3.

     

    ps, I ran into something similar with my first Pi to Pi2 upgrade, thinking the upgrade would save me time. Then after the VERY lengthy upgrade process it didn't work anyways because my WiFi adapter drivers were all wrong. AND the upgraded SD card was not backward compatible like I was thinking it would be.

    I ended up setting it up from scratch, which was ultimately much faster.

     

    Cheers,

    -Nico

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to ntewinkel

    I agree with you 100%.  I might lose two or three days and I already know I went way too deep without properly documenting everything image

    The bummer part is there wasn't any real support answers and initial research looked like everything, might be a slight pain but doable.  I am more used to manufacturers saying yes/no especially on such a huge topic.  So getting to the point of testing and then a wall is disappointing.

     

    and yea, quite a bit running... a made a vpn data acquisition server out of one with environmental control and remote and web updates.. Fun project, don't really have to go to P3, thought I could expand the project.

    http://growatcher.com

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    If start.elf won't launch, it may be corrupt.

    Note that 4-flashes may point to a defective SD-card holder, if one or more of the data contacts is intermittent it can lead to this problem.

    More to check!

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    I got a second PI3 in the mail today to verify the 4 flashes weren't contact related.  Both same results.

    Thought I would re-image the SD card again and follow the steps again just in case any corruption.  Doing that now.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    May not want to update beyond NOOBS 1.4 though as it looks as if the partitioning has changed with NOOBS 1.5

     

    "Because of this partition change it is not advisable to 'upgrade' the version of NOOBS on an existing SD card from a version prior to v1.5 to one at v1.5 or later."

    https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/wiki/NOOBS-partitioning-explained

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    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Ug, with after reading that I feel like I could make it work but hacking it to work.. I think I might have to go with what Nico suggested up above and bite the bullet if I decide PI3 is worth it down the road.

    Thank you all for the help!

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