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lcipir
lcipir over 9 years ago

Hello, I recently purchased a PI3 to use in one of my existing projects and the initial research I did led me to believe that the PI2 could be upgraded to PI3 by swapping out SD cards.  I got a PI3 from Adafruit and it would not work (4 slow blink followed by 4 fast blink ACT).  I asked them and they said that the PI3 has recently gone through a change that makes it not compatible with the PI2 OS.   The reason why I am asking is because my project is long and complicated and I would not want to have to redo the entire thing to go to PI3 since I made the project on PI2.  Any help feedback would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Dan

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 9 years ago

    With newer ARM processing cores, the firmware often needs updates. Here is what I would try. First take the same SD card nd put back to the Pi 2. Then issue the following:

    df -h                              (check if you have enough space on card)

    sudo apt-get update

    sudo apt-get upgrade     (option at this point since your software may not agree)

    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     (firmware updates)

     

    Now try card and should work. If not you may want to consider the upgrade also. BTW, a backup of your card would be worth the time in case it fails due to lack of space or internet problem.

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  • gdstew
    gdstew over 9 years ago

    I'm not sure where you got the impression from but the Pi 2 and Pi 3 use different ARM cores in the SOC. The Pi 2 is a 32 bit quad-core ARM and the Pi 3 is a 64 bit quad-core ARM

    although most of the current OSs run it in 32 bit mode. Most of the differences between the two should be "hidden" in the OS which is why you need to upgrade to the latest version

    when running the Pi 3. The good news is that most of the hardware outside the ARM core in the SOC is the same and any software written to use that hardware should continue to

    work although it may occasionally require some small tweaks to do so.

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago

    Thank you for the help first off.

    So I used the cloned SD chip as backup to my PI2 and the clone started up and upgraded all perfectly in the PI2. 

    After done, I put the SD chip in the PI3 and I get the same result.  4 slow flashes followed by 4 faster flashes. 

    I will be getting another PI3 in the mail today so I will be able to see if it is hardware or software problem I hope.  I will post back with that result.  Thanks again,

    Dan

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to gdstew

    I do not understand the impression you think I got?

    I was simply using a PI2 and thought it would be nice to upgrade hardware to PI3.  Did research and on these forums others said you could go from PI2 to PI3 hardware.  I found I could not which is why I am posting.  If it was just doing the software upgrades, understandable.  I thought mine was pretty up to date but it took more so it was worth that attempt for sure.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to clem57

    If it is a NOOBS SD card do you need to also update the NOOBS software as per Pi 1 -> Pi 2 ?

    https://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/16982376-updating-raspian-on-your-microsd-for-the-raspberry-pi-2

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago

    Well shoot.. Got the new P3 and same result.  The SD card works fine in P2 but not P3 after all the suggested updating on two now.  4 slow blinks followed by 4 fast blinks.

    Adafruit says the newer P3 revision isn't backwards compatible now even though the earlier releases of P3 were.  Is this really true?  I can see how for most people this wouldn't be a problem but for those of us with many days of setup on our systems will this not be a further option in these newer releases of P3?

    Also just tried rpi-update with no success.

     

    Thanks,

    Dan

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Would be nice to have feedback on this question if it is a solution.  It was just such an old post I wonder too if this applies to P3.

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  • gdstew
    gdstew over 9 years ago in reply to lcipir

    "the initial research I did led me to believe that the PI2 could be upgraded to PI3 by swapping out SD cards"

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  • lcipir
    lcipir over 9 years ago in reply to gdstew

    Are you helpful at this point?  I wouldn't just make something up.  There are several people posting successful swap outs after doing updating different ways.  Here are a couple:

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=151377

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=139151

    haven't tried this one yet but others have had success: pi 2 - Raspbian migration from Raspberry Pi 2 to Raspberry Pi 3 - Raspberry Pi Stack Exchange

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to lcipir

    You haven't said yet if you are using a NOOBS/Raspbian Jessie SD card.

     

    Some more recent forum entries from 2016 suggesting that you need to update the NOOBS files as well as Raspbian going from Pi 2 -> Pi 3

    pi 2 - Raspbian migration from Raspberry Pi 2 to Raspberry Pi 3 - Raspberry Pi Stack Exchange

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=138725

     

    The 4 flashes gives some indication to the problem relating to start.elf

    R-Pi Troubleshooting - eLinux.org

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