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toolkitman
toolkitman over 6 years ago

I have a question that i think is possible less or more! Find DNA of a person by using a raspberry pi connected to a camera and a fingerprinting usb device. Let you discuss if interested! Bye

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    DAB over 6 years ago

    Unless you supply more information I do not see anyway to achieve DNA analysis with that setup.

     

    You can do a lot of profiling with a camera, but all you get from the fingerprint is a nearly unique identification.

     

    DNA requires cellular information not discernable by either of those sensors.

     

    DAB

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    toolkitman over 6 years ago in reply to DAB

    i know this DNA requires cellular information not discernable by either of those sensors., but mapping the same tract of faces and fingerprintings between two typos having the same part of DNA can help make this technology, am i wrong?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to toolkitman

    The terminology is causing confusion... instead of DNA, as I understand, I think the request is to record the unique characteristics of an individual (or any object for that matter), such as shape, curve of fingerprint, color of eyes, etc., to see if there is a match.

    This already exists for humans, in the form of facial recognition software, and fingerprint databases used by the police. The facial recognition stuff also has some business uses and is used (or will be used) in stores, to do people-counting (and automatically ignoring the same person) to see how many unique people enter the store and how long they stay for.. For fingerprints, google shows this: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Are_there_some_free_tools_for_fingerprint_analysis

    It's definitely getting easier to do, although the last time I saw the facial recognition stuff, it was running on a GPU I think (not sure) and it could also extract characteristics like approximate age, and male/female (embarrassingly getting it wrong for a few people : ). But general purpose computers are getting faster too. There is a project by Frank fmilburn that recognises his family using a Pi, see here: PiCasso Adapting Art to Viewers: Demonstration, Blog #10

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    toolkitman over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I think there is just something boiling the "Calderone" i have found this:

     

    https://www.biometricupdate.com/201810/facial-recognition-and-dna-sequencing-technology-used-to-generate-facial-images-f…

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    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to toolkitman

    Yes, but that is going the other way round - your DNA might predict your fingerprint (or aspects of it) but your fingerprint does not map all your DNA.

     

    But it turns out that DNA is not the whole story - your DNA does NOT fully define your fingerprint so it may be more tricky than you think.

     

    https://www.livescience.com/32247-do-identical-twins-have-identical-fingerprints.html

     

    It's also clear from the amount of information in a fingerprint (way less than 880kbytes)  and in DNA (about 1.5Gbytes)  - there is no way of predicting the larger from the smaller.

     

     

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=21&ved=2ahUKEwj7__HvzJ_iAhX0SxUIHfGiCC8QFjAUegQIBRAC&url=h…

     

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    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to toolkitman

    Yes, but that is going the other way round - your DNA might predict your fingerprint (or aspects of it) but your fingerprint does not map all your DNA.

     

    But it turns out that DNA is not the whole story - your DNA does NOT fully define your fingerprint so it may be more tricky than you think.

     

    https://www.livescience.com/32247-do-identical-twins-have-identical-fingerprints.html

     

    It's also clear from the amount of information in a fingerprint (way less than 880kbytes)  and in DNA (about 1.5Gbytes)  - there is no way of predicting the larger from the smaller.

     

     

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=21&ved=2ahUKEwj7__HvzJ_iAhX0SxUIHfGiCC8QFjAUegQIBRAC&url=h…

     

    MK

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    toolkitman over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    But adding fingerprintings plus facial recognition can be of any help.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    michaelkellett  wrote:

     

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    It's also clear from the amount of information in a fingerprint (way less than 880kbytes)  and in DNA (about 1.5Gbytes)

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    MK

    Best compression ratio since pkzip image

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    michaelkellett over 6 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    The real situation is worse than my simple figures - the fingerprint data is based on acceptable image data - the true information content is probably as little as 1%.

    To further complicate things the DNA probably provides some fractal instructions to grow the right pattern - so will achieve massive compression but at the price of not quite defining the result.

     

    There sure is no going back !

     

    MK

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  • gpolder
    gpolder over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    furthermore: Phenotype (the fingerprint) is Genotype (the DNA) x Environment.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene–environment_interaction

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