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Looking for 5 People to Experiment with Thermocouple/RTD Connectors

rscasny
rscasny over 5 years ago

What's the best way to connect a Thermocouple or an RTD probe to a printed circuit board (PCB). I was asked that question during a call I had with a supplier who manufactures thermocouple and RTD probes, among other things.image

 

It's not a question I am asked frequently. Hmm, good question: soldering, connectors, terminal blocks, etc.

 

At then end of that informative call, they decided to give me some of their new surface mounted Thermocouple/RTD probe connectors to give out to some interested members to experiment with.

 

Who I am Looking for

Anyone can apply by offering a comment below and tell me something about what you had in mind. I think if you were working on a temperature control/monitoring system and were using and connecting thermocouples/RTDs you would be great for this little project. But anyone who has a mind to experiment with these connectors is invited to offer their idea. I will send you some of the connectors to you.

 

I will send you some of these connectors. I'd like you to examine them, experiment with these connectors, and then write a blog on element14.

 

Randall Scasny

--element14 Team

 

 

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  • damianr
    damianr over 5 years ago +4
    For thermocouples, crimps etc introduce errors. Quality matching thermcouple connectors are a must. We use a lot of Type T and with careful selection and connection get better than 0.2c accuracy 0-140…
  • rscasny
    rscasny over 5 years ago in reply to colporteur +3
    Sean, Thanks for the reminder. I had to check with our shipping department to verify that we got the connectors delivered to the office. We got them. So, I will we shipping them on Monday. It's my understanding…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to colporteur +3
    Just to make the terminology clearer (because a search for binding posts for thermocouples won't reveal much). Really it's just plugs and sockets. You've got sockets which happen to be surface-mount (the…
  • mrsander
    mrsander over 5 years ago

    To some degree it matters what the distance from the actual RTD to the board that is processing the signal is.  If this distance is relatively far (ie across the room or up in a ceiling, etc), then i would use a terminal block or a connector, so that a) its easier to run the wire and then connect, and b)you have more control regarding that the connection is using equivalent materials, and there is no thermal differences at that point (this is assuming the wire to the RTD is sheathed in appropriate material to ensure zero thermal difference as well.

    If the RTD and circuits are next to each other, then soldering is the best way, again, assuming that the solder is being put down in such a way so that mass of the solder for each connection is relatively the same, and the electrical connection is solid. 

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  • fyaocn
    fyaocn over 5 years ago

    Really clever design for SMT RTD. I am interested in this experiment. Better read datasheet first before first move.

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  • dubbie
    dubbie over 5 years ago

    This is the sort of thing where I would get someone else to do it. Not very helpful I know but I found it worked quite well.

     

    Dubbie

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  • damianr
    damianr over 5 years ago

    For thermocouples, crimps etc introduce errors. Quality matching thermcouple connectors are a must. We use a lot of Type T and with careful selection and connection get better than 0.2c accuracy 0-140 c.

     

    RTDs.. For PT100 stray resistance from crimps is the enemy. As are poor quality tin plate push connectors. Screwed connectors, or low resistance plated connectors.

     

    For PT500/1000 its way less critical.  Almost any semi decent connector works ok.

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  • colporteur
    colporteur over 5 years ago

    I would be interested in testing the connection mechanism on the Raspberry Pi project that uses temperature sensors..

     

    My objective would be to try and mount the connectors on perf boards. Looking at the pictorial from the Element14 posting the connectors assembly is in two parts. The binding posts solder to a printed circuit board and a connector assembly mates to the binding posts. My testing is to determine if the connectors can work on a PCB that is not manufactured. PCB that are the bread and butter of the hobbyist.

     

    I would like to try and assemble three boards. That would require 3 binding posts X 2 sets per board X three boards and 2 connectors per 3 boards.

    18 binding posts and 6 connectors is what I get for totals.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 5 years ago

    I am designing a PCB with several sensor interfaces to mate with a MKR Zero.

    It will include 3 K type thermocouples with the smaller connectors that should fit these PCB connectors.

    I am planning to use 3 Maxim interface chipMaxim interface chips to get accurate temperature readings/.

    The system will have an LCD display so it can display sensor data.

    rscasny Where can I find a datasheet showing PCB footprints etc for these TC connectors? I don't see a part number above.

    Blogging about the project would have to wait until the PCBs show up.

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 5 years ago in reply to dougw

    Hi Douglas,

    Let me get it for you.

    Randall

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 5 years ago

    Let me get the datasheet for everyone.

     

    Randall

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 5 years ago in reply to rscasny

    Here's the datasheet I was given by the supplier:

     

    https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2913879.pdf?_ga=2.178074087.357810872.1592229097-982436643.1585328086&_gac=1.24561515…

     

    If you need something more, tell me. I'll call the supplier and get it for you.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Randall

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  • amptyco
    amptyco over 5 years ago in reply to fyaocn

    Good point mate!

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