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pettitda
pettitda over 10 years ago

Have you supported a Kickstarter campaign?  Would you do it again?  Was the quality of the reward what you expected? 

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 10 years ago +6
    Hi David, I've only supported one Kickstarter with a reasonable sum of money (and I did get a reasonable product back, although severely delayed). However, I've been referred many KS projects by friends…
  • gadget.iom
    gadget.iom over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz +4
    A very entertaining response shabaz . Thanks. There certainly are some "interesting" campaigns out there, this one always stuck in my head: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/779686749/pckeylock-physical…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 10 years ago +4
    I suppose one has to look at it as a way of finding capital for their project, and it's more-so a "donation" to their cause with the "possibility" of getting something back. Venture capitalists, flush…
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  • land-boards
    land-boards over 9 years ago

    Having done 20 Kickstarters to date I have something of an opinion. Or maybe a couple of them.

     

    1. I create Kickstarter projects for stuff that I wanted to do myself and think that others might want to do.
    2. I often create cards for needs I see at work that I look around and can't find a suitable product on the market. My One Wire Data Logger which I personally use for brewing beer in my BrewStation is used to log temperatures in electronic equipment testing is such an example.
    3. I try to do stuff that is not "out there" in some particular way. My stuff might be a permutation on something Adafruit does but not in the same form factor. Case in point is the Console Card for the Raspberry Pi. Adafruit has a cable which forces you to put pins on the Pi Connector. I have a card. Not much more money for the card but for some more convenient and less error prone.
    4. Most of my personal projects don't end up on Kickstarter because there's no math to support the project. Case in point is the card MyMenu. I use these in my own projects all over the place but it doesn't make financial sense for me (in the US) to make this a product. I can't count on China as a source of consistent supply for the OLED display.
    5. I put up everything on my Wiki page and my github site to help advance the art in my own small steps. We all borrow from each other.
    6. We don't want to be too successful. My own greatest fear is getting too many orders to fill but too few orders to quit my day job.
    7. I like Kickstarter as a front end to my Tindie store. It continues to drive sales to the Tindie store well after the campaign ends.
    8. .When fulfilling orders we are busy building boards or shipping them every spare moment most weeknights and every hour of the weekend. I was building boards on the weekend my oldest son got married. We we discussing life as I was assembling kits to ship.
    9. Part of the fun for me is that this is something my adult children and I do together. Gives us an excuse to do stuff together.
    10. We have a very good record of meeting our reward dates. Usually we end up shipping the weekend before the end of the month.
    11. I think we missed one shipment date and had to ship a week later than the estimated date.
    12. I had to take a day off work once to meet a shipping deadline of the end of the month due to PCBs coming in late. I did it. The campaign was for less money than I would have been paid that day had I stayed on my day job.
    13. People like to do the "but I can buy that from China for less $$$" game. I do it too. I get it. And I am deliberately not creating projects which China sees the volume to do - yet.
    14. People often fail to give you their address to fulfill all the orders at once. I've had people come back 9 months later and fill in the address survey. That's a pain to deal with individually when you previously did things in large batches.
    15. Filling out the export forms on the USPS site was a pain. We wrote some custom software to make it easier. Tried to turn this into a Kickstarter project without success.
    16. All in all, I've got to know some incredible backers. One guy has backed literally hundreds of projects. Not sure what he does with the rewards but he's clearly into the community. Some people are along on the same journey that we are on. They are excited to see what projects we are coming out with next. We often message previous project backers to let them know we have a new project and we've seen a very good rate of people who follow from one to the next project. But that only comes by doing what you promised.
    17. Our key nitch is mounting holes. There are tons of benchtop/prototype/breadboard/toys. Until you put mounting holes to mount something in a box, it's just a toy. That's my own biggest gripe with the Arduino. Really bad mounting holes. The earlier Pi models had that problem but the Pi people now get it.

     

    Doug at Land Boards, LLC

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 9 years ago in reply to land-boards

    I think David asked if you backed any ... not started any.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Hi Mark, it is possible to see these via the Kickstarter creator profile. It says 11 were backed all around the same period in 2014 (around May-Aug 2014), all were unsuccessful ones. Then one was backed in April 2015, again an unsuccessful one.

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    land-boards over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I most recently backed this unsuccessful one https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/logos-electro/arachnio?ref=users

    I thought it was a good idea. Sad that it didn't go through. The thing that he did was to put the WiFi onto the Arduino card. I didn't care for the form factor of the card. Fine for breadboarding but I really want the cheapest WiFi node I can put somewhere. For instance drop a 1wire thermal sensor in the basement to see what the temperature of my beer is at. The ESP8266 and Arduino Nano seem like a good approach. I did a card for that myself. No good price point for the card to Kickstarter.

     

    Probably was his goal was unrealistic. He got a lot of backers - 179 but less than half way to the goal.

     

    To me if you have already gone to the effort to make the prototype why make such high goals? Only if you want to do it overseas, I suppose. Then you need a certain volume. I would have been OK with paying US wages to have them built here at a higher price and have less backers. But that's a different formula.

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    land-boards over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    I most recently backed this unsuccessful one https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/logos-electro/arachnio?ref=users

    I thought it was a good idea. Sad that it didn't go through. The thing that he did was to put the WiFi onto the Arduino card. I didn't care for the form factor of the card. Fine for breadboarding but I really want the cheapest WiFi node I can put somewhere. For instance drop a 1wire thermal sensor in the basement to see what the temperature of my beer is at. The ESP8266 and Arduino Nano seem like a good approach. I did a card for that myself. No good price point for the card to Kickstarter.

     

    Probably was his goal was unrealistic. He got a lot of backers - 179 but less than half way to the goal.

     

    To me if you have already gone to the effort to make the prototype why make such high goals? Only if you want to do it overseas, I suppose. Then you need a certain volume. I would have been OK with paying US wages to have them built here at a higher price and have less backers. But that's a different formula.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 9 years ago in reply to land-boards

    I backed Eric and Digispark

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digistump/digispark-the-tiny-arduino-enabled-usb-dev-board?ref=nav_search

    His project went ballistic, but he stepped up to the plate and sorted it.

    Because of the support he provided I backed his others. (except for the trailer)

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digistump/digispark-the-tiny-arduino-enabled-usb-dev-board/creator_bio

     

    I also backed the RFDuino, UDOO and PiScreen

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1608192864/rfduino-iphone-bluetooth-40-arduino-compatible-boa/description

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/udoo/udoo-android-linux-arduino-in-a-tiny-single-board?ref=nav_search

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2135028730/piscreen-a-35-tft-with-touchscreen-for-the-raspber?ref=nav_search

     

    The PiScreen was disappointing in that the communication was  .... well non existent  is an understatement.

    It was late due to the availability issues (apparently) but that doesn't stop communication or answering queries.

     

    I also backed VoCore

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/vocore-a-coin-sized-linux-computer-with-wifi/x/8119029#/

     

     

     

    In each case I supported them because the cost was realistic for what was on offer AT THE TIME.

     

    I backed a few others that never made it off the ground.

     

    I would do it again IF I can see value for what I receive. I don't freely hand out money and can't see why I should.

    In each case the rewards have matched my expectations or contributions.

     

     

    Mark

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