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Obsolescence: The problem with the problem

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Catwell over 15 years ago

I held a job at a company whose product line was designed in the late 1970s. When I came onboard there, they repeatedly told me that all the engineering, up and to that point, was just in redesigning and maintaining the legacy boards. So, for several months, that is exactly what I did for them. I spent most of my time talking to chip brokers trying to find a cache of various chips that hadn't been made in 20 years. I would spend hours searching the internet for obscure and lesser know chip houses to find parts. Sometimes I would score a huge batch of ICs, and other times I was just left feeling angry talking to shifty chip houses. I'm sure a lot of people can relate to this one. From what I understand, it's often 20% of any job.
 
So, since it's such a big part of engineering, what is the best practice in searching for obsolete parts? Are there definitive places to go, services to use, people to know?
 
Side story; I remember I found 1000, important, ICs for that company, roughly a 6 month supply. They would not buy them, why? Because they didn't want to store them. The recent "just in time inventory" strategy superseded my department. I even offered to store them all in my garage! So, they let them go. A few months later they were desperate, went back to buy them, and they were gone. The entire company went into a spiraling frenzy. They ended up paying almost the price of the final product for a single IC.
 
For the record, I ended up taking the product away from the IC and into the age of micro-controllers. I designed the software to be usable on several different uCs, longevity of the product would never be an issue again. Ultimately, a thankless gesture on my part. They downsized the entire department after I was done with the redesign. But that's just the curse of being a hapless salaryman.
 
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  • firatkocak
    firatkocak over 15 years ago in reply to enrico.migchels +1
    One more analogy from me. You have just passed through the desert. And someone else holds a cup of water in his hand. What would you do ? Would you ask so that "Sorry, are you a reliable person to give…
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  • GardenState
    0 GardenState over 15 years ago

    Hi Cabe.

     

    This is a very big problem in the military. Fighter jets are designed for 20-30 years of service life; the electronic components they contain frequently are not available for that long. Fortunately, there are companies that specialize in providing a reliable source of product that has been discontinued by the original manufacturer. Two such companies come to mind: Rochester Electroncs of Newburyport MA and Lansdale Semiconductor of Tempe AZ

     

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    0 GardenState over 15 years ago

    Hi Cabe.

     

    This is a very big problem in the military. Fighter jets are designed for 20-30 years of service life; the electronic components they contain frequently are not available for that long. Fortunately, there are companies that specialize in providing a reliable source of product that has been discontinued by the original manufacturer. Two such companies come to mind: Rochester Electroncs of Newburyport MA and Lansdale Semiconductor of Tempe AZ

     

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to GardenState

    There are indeed a lot of companies that source or even remake obsolete parts.

     

    Just entering "obsolete components" into google will give you a lot of results.

     

     

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