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64Kbit DRAM equivalent

KennyMillar
KennyMillar over 14 years ago

Hi everyone

 

I'm looking for some ram chips I can use to repair a Roland sound module.

The fault lies in the MN4264 DRAM Chips and I need to replace them.

 

Does anyone know where I can buy MN4264-12 or equivalent chips these days?

It is a 64Kbit DRAM organised as 16K x 4bits.

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    0 ar_sys over 14 years ago

    Hi Kenny, 
     
    How many chip you need ? I think have a couple in some my old hardware. 
    If it can be useful for you, I can de-solderd it an send you for free. 

    Alessandro

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to ar_sys

    Alessandro,

     

    The device has 4 chips in it - I'm not sure how many are faulty.

    One interesting thing is that if I put my oscilloscope probe onto the CAS line of the chip bank, the fault goes away - so looks like the timing in one of the chips has slipped out of spec.

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to ar_sys

    Alessandro,

     

    The device has 4 chips in it - I'm not sure how many are faulty.

    One interesting thing is that if I put my oscilloscope probe onto the CAS line of the chip bank, the fault goes away - so looks like the timing in one of the chips has slipped out of spec.

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    0 ar_sys over 14 years ago in reply to KennyMillar

    Kenny 
     
    I hope the fault is in the DRAM chip and not in the driving circuit. 
    I can send various brand and various access time chip so you can try. 
    However 4264 must be a 64K x 1bit chip (see Micron part number list) 
    I have also some 16K x 4bit but is is usually marked as 4416 41416 an so on. 
      
    In this week end I see all I can find for you. 
     
    Alessandro

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to ar_sys

    I've seen confusion over this part number before - these are definitely 4 bit wide chips - I have the schematic for the system (Carl - I PMed you about that!)

    And I have a datasheet from Panasonic which shows the MN4264 as 4 bit. The micron data sheet does show it as 1 bit though. I believe both micron and panasonic have used the MN prefix at times.

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to KennyMillar

    I may remove all 4 chips from the board and build a test rig for them.

    -K

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    0 ar_sys over 14 years ago in reply to KennyMillar

    Kenny

     

    Plese tell me if your chip is 16 or 18 Pin. Please check also in your schematic how many address there are.

    -All  64K*1 I have (marked 4164 4264 4864) are in 16 pin package

    -All 16K*4 ( marked 4416  41416 etc ) are in 18 pin package

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to ar_sys

    It's an 18-Pin device, and it is without doubt 16K x 4

    I have the correct data sheet for the part and I have the schematic for the board, both refer to MN4264-12 and both show a 4Bitx 16K device.

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    0 ar_sys over 14 years ago in reply to KennyMillar

    Kenny,

     

    I am sorry but my 4264 are in 16 pin package. You can try whit 4416 chip?

    Compare before your datasheet whit TMS4416 or similar Dram.

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    0 KennyMillar over 14 years ago in reply to ar_sys

    Thanks anyway :-)

    I'll keep looking....

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