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Digital PI (Pulse Induction) metal detector.

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Former Member over 10 years ago

I want to build a digital PI (Pulse Induction) metal detector. Which components may be the best for this? I think I'll need a fast and precise AD converter and a fast micro controller to measure the voltage decay and then compare with a normal curve without metal present. ¿Am I in the right way?

Thanks in advance!

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to bobalexander +1
    I think that for the OP, PI means Pulse Induction not RaspberryPi. But never mind - the board you suggest is quite nice but based on an older STM32 processor which can't convert as fast as some of the…
  • bobalexander
    bobalexander over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett +1
    Good point - I completely missed that! I was under the impression that Pulse Induction is not a great option as you can never discriminate out iron. Perhaps that is what the OP is wanting to detect though…
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    0 michaelkellett over 10 years ago

    You've double posted this  - I've answered it in the Ben Heck group where I saw it first - you really shouldn't double post.

     

    MK

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    You are right sorry about that and thanks a lot.

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    0 bobalexander over 10 years ago

    You could add a ARMinARM board if you are wanting to utilize the Pi as some kind of interface:

    onandoffables / hardware / arminarm / board

    The  STM32 ARM Cortex-M3 microcontroller 'backpack' would let you perform all the signal sensing and low level processing just passing off data to the Pi...

     

    Most metal detectors utilize a VLF transmitter and receiver to detect the presence of a metal.

    They then discriminate between ferrous and non-ferrous materials based on the phase shift of the returned signal. This allows you to tell if the metal you are detecting is a rusty old nail or a gold coin as each type of metal will shift the phase of the bounced signal differently.

     

    Here is a basic overview:

    http://www.thomasathomas.com/Metal_detectors_work.htm

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    0 michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to bobalexander

    I think that for the OP,  PI means Pulse Induction not RaspberryPi.

    But never mind -  the board you suggest is quite nice but based on an older STM32 processor which can't convert as fast as some of the more recent parts.

     

    MK

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    0 bobalexander over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Good point - I completely missed that!

    I was under the impression that Pulse Induction is not a great option as you can never discriminate out iron.

    Perhaps that is what the OP is wanting to detect though...

     

    Good call on the older STM32 - I didn't even think about it not being fast enough for processing signals in the kHz range.

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Yes, PI stands for Pulse Induction, that's the reason why I need fast measurement, see the curve in the figure:

     

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