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Remote Current Sensing

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Former Member over 13 years ago

I have all of a silly home project functional except for one piece of the puzzle. I'm over-building a remote doorbell for fun for our house. On the back patio, we can never hear the doorbell ring inside the house when guests come over, so I wanted to overdo it by putting a cool 6" brass bell on the back patio wall with a solenoid inside that would ding the bell when the doorbell was run. At first I was just going to hack apart an off-the-shelf setup, but that's just not as fun as using parts I have lying around.

 

I have set up two Xbee radios to do the wireless part. Works great. Simple. Not so cheap, but simple and they were available on my bench. I'm an AVR fan, so I used a couple of ATtiny24's I had sitting in the drawer for each end to make sure the communications was reliable and that the brass bell doesn't just randomly fire at all hours of the night. image

 

The part that I'm theorizing about is the sensor for the doorbell. I don't want to hack apart the actual button. Space is limited and I want the front door area to not look like the entrance to a mad scientist's lair. I'd like to do something more non-intrusive, like a current sensor. I want to use one of these to sense the current on the solenoid lines for the actual doorbell on the wall inside the house:

 

http://www.newark.com/allegro-microsystems/acs756kca-050b-pff-t/ic-linear-current-sensor-10ma-pff/dp/97M3899?in_merch=Popular%20Sensors

 

Does anyone who knows more about this amazing world of electronics fun (unlike me, the hobbyist hacker) know if this is a reasonable solution or if it would work well at all? It seems really cool to do it this way. It would also be kosher with my wife, whose only rule for me on this project (aside from the usual, "Don't burn down the house.") was (paraphrasing): "Do not destroy our doorbell." image

 

Recommendations or suggestions or a, "sure, that should do the trick" would be greatly appreciated!

 

Andy

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  • nlarson
    0 nlarson over 13 years ago

    This sounds really cool - I'm not technically inclined to answer if it will work or not with that part - but I'd love to see a video demo of the finished product! image

     

    Good luck!

    Nicole

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to nlarson

    Thanks! I always post articles (usually with videos and at least with photos) on my blog of all of the projects I build, no matter how silly they are. image I'll post a link to this discussion when the project is completed. Certain pieces of it are already posted on the blog and I think they reference this project.

     

    Andy

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  • Catwell
    0 Catwell over 13 years ago

    Andy,

     

    A over the top way to sense a change in the wires is a contactless multimeter. It could measure when current is flowing through a wire. From there your AVR can handle what to do. See the Fluke 322 AC clamp multimeterFluke 322 AC clamp multimeter. It has a signal out built in.
     
    Somewhere is the doorbell circuit there may be a relay. Find that and use the contacts in some fashion.
     
    You could also build a switch circuit to sense when the doorbell switch is depressed. See my MOSFET switch posts for some basic circuit ideas.
     
    And finally, use a  audio sensor to detect when the doorbell is hit. Have the AVR  deal with  it all. (I like this one best. Place a sensor near a doorbell speaker.  Wireless sensing...)
     
    Cabe

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Catwell

    Hey Cabe,

     

    Thanks for the ideas! The clamp multimeter isn't very discrete, but definitely over the top. image I like the idea of an audio sensor. I have a ton of piezo discs in the drawer for a drum kit project I was going to do. One of those would work well, methinks. I'll give that a try.

     

    Andy

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    How about using the principles of a clamp meter? ie, make a small inductor coil to sense the current. You could crudely get away with something similar to this;

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