element14 Community
element14 Community
    Register Log In
  • Site
  • Search
  • Log In Register
  • Community Hub
    Community Hub
    • What's New on element14
    • Feedback and Support
    • Benefits of Membership
    • Personal Blogs
    • Members Area
    • Achievement Levels
  • Learn
    Learn
    • Ask an Expert
    • eBooks
    • element14 presents
    • Learning Center
    • Tech Spotlight
    • STEM Academy
    • Webinars, Training and Events
    • Learning Groups
  • Technologies
    Technologies
    • 3D Printing
    • FPGA
    • Industrial Automation
    • Internet of Things
    • Power & Energy
    • Sensors
    • Technology Groups
  • Challenges & Projects
    Challenges & Projects
    • Design Challenges
    • element14 presents Projects
    • Project14
    • Arduino Projects
    • Raspberry Pi Projects
    • Project Groups
  • Products
    Products
    • Arduino
    • Avnet & Tria Boards Community
    • Dev Tools
    • Manufacturers
    • Multicomp Pro
    • Product Groups
    • Raspberry Pi
    • RoadTests & Reviews
  • About Us
  • Store
    Store
    • Visit Your Store
    • Choose another store...
      • Europe
      •  Austria (German)
      •  Belgium (Dutch, French)
      •  Bulgaria (Bulgarian)
      •  Czech Republic (Czech)
      •  Denmark (Danish)
      •  Estonia (Estonian)
      •  Finland (Finnish)
      •  France (French)
      •  Germany (German)
      •  Hungary (Hungarian)
      •  Ireland
      •  Israel
      •  Italy (Italian)
      •  Latvia (Latvian)
      •  
      •  Lithuania (Lithuanian)
      •  Netherlands (Dutch)
      •  Norway (Norwegian)
      •  Poland (Polish)
      •  Portugal (Portuguese)
      •  Romania (Romanian)
      •  Russia (Russian)
      •  Slovakia (Slovak)
      •  Slovenia (Slovenian)
      •  Spain (Spanish)
      •  Sweden (Swedish)
      •  Switzerland(German, French)
      •  Turkey (Turkish)
      •  United Kingdom
      • Asia Pacific
      •  Australia
      •  China
      •  Hong Kong
      •  India
      • Japan
      •  Korea (Korean)
      •  Malaysia
      •  New Zealand
      •  Philippines
      •  Singapore
      •  Taiwan
      •  Thailand (Thai)
      • Vietnam
      • Americas
      •  Brazil (Portuguese)
      •  Canada
      •  Mexico (Spanish)
      •  United States
      Can't find the country/region you're looking for? Visit our export site or find a local distributor.
  • Translate
  • Profile
  • Settings
Experts, Learning and Guidance
  • Technologies
  • More
Experts, Learning and Guidance
Ask an Expert Forum Rise time measurements counter/timer vs Oscope?
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • Documents
  • Leaderboard
  • Files
  • Members
  • Mentions
  • Sub-Groups
  • Tags
  • More
  • Cancel
  • New
Join Experts, Learning and Guidance to participate - click to join for free!
Actions
  • Share
  • More
  • Cancel
Forum Thread Details
  • State Not Answered
  • Replies 14 replies
  • Subscribers 302 subscribers
  • Views 2534 views
  • Users 0 members are here
Related
See a helpful answer?

Be sure to click 'more' and select 'suggest as answer'!

If you're the thread creator, be sure to click 'more' then 'Verify as Answer'!

Rise time measurements counter/timer vs Oscope?

dc2daylight
dc2daylight over 3 years ago

Hi,

I am trying to measure the rise time of a 10 MHz square wave with a Keysight 53220A universal counter.  The source has a specified rise time at 10 MHz of <3 nS.  This is confirmed to be about 3 nS when measured on a scope.

However, when measured on the counter I am seeing a rise time of around 40 nS (10-90%).

I suspect that either I am not measuring the same thing or I may be setting up the measurement incorrectly on the counter.  (the user manual has very little on this).

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

  • Sign in to reply
  • Cancel

Top Replies

  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 3 years ago +3
    The 53220A isn't a time-stamping or zero-dead-time counter. So there is a minimum delay needed between start and stop triggers on time interval measurements. The rise time of a fast edge wouldn't satisfy…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 3 years ago +2
    Is the 10/90% on the counter rise time or duty cycle? A sking because the UOM is %, and that's more common for the duty cycle. 2nd check: input impedance of scope vs counter. Are they both 50 Ohm, both…
  • dc2daylight
    dc2daylight over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps +1
    Ok, yes, It's a time interval parameter, not a duty cycle. My understanding is the 10-90% is the time interval it takes the signal to go from 10% to it's final value of 90% of it's final value. It…
Parents
  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago

    Is the 10/90% on the counter rise time or duty cycle?A sking because the UOM is %, and that's more common for the duty cycle.

    2nd check: input impedance of scope vs counter. Are they both 50 Ohm, both high impedance, or is one different from the other?

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +2 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
  • dc2daylight
    0 dc2daylight over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Ok, yes, It's a time interval parameter, not a duty cycle.

    My understanding is the 10-90% is the time interval it takes the signal to go from 10% to it's final value of 90% of it's final value.

    It is an adjustable parameter but I thing the 10/90 is most commonly used.

    Using 50 ohms input impedance on both.


    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +1 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
Reply
  • dc2daylight
    0 dc2daylight over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Ok, yes, It's a time interval parameter, not a duty cycle.

    My understanding is the 10-90% is the time interval it takes the signal to go from 10% to it's final value of 90% of it's final value.

    It is an adjustable parameter but I thing the 10/90 is most commonly used.

    Using 50 ohms input impedance on both.


    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +1 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
Children
  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to dc2daylight
    dc2daylight said:
    I thing the 10/90 is most commonly used

    Yes, you are correct.

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +1 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Cancel
element14 Community

element14 is the first online community specifically for engineers. Connect with your peers and get expert answers to your questions.

  • Members
  • Learn
  • Technologies
  • Challenges & Projects
  • Products
  • Store
  • About Us
  • Feedback & Support
  • FAQs
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Legal and Copyright Notices
  • Sitemap
  • Cookies

An Avnet Company © 2025 Premier Farnell Limited. All Rights Reserved.

Premier Farnell Ltd, registered in England and Wales (no 00876412), registered office: Farnell House, Forge Lane, Leeds LS12 2NE.

ICP 备案号 10220084.

Follow element14

  • X
  • Facebook
  • linkedin
  • YouTube