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Timeout Error when Reading Measurements from Impedance Analyzer Solartron 1260 via NI MAX using IEEE 488/GPIB

Abdul
Abdul over 2 years ago

Hi, 

 I'm working with a Solartron A1260 Impedance/Gain-Phase Analyzer and attempting to read measurements on the NI MAX interface connected through a PCI bus. The analyzer itself is functioning correctly and can receive "Write" commands, as you can see the measurements on blue screen, but when I try to "Read" these measurements using NI MAX, I encounter a timeout error, as illustrated in the attached screenshot.The only command I can read is `*IDN? `. but my goal is to "Read" that simple measurement data of impedance analyzer on NI MAX interface.

I have tried adjusting the timeout/Bytes settings and reviewing the connection, but the issue persists. It seems like the main challenge is that I'm not sure about the correct commands to read the measurement data. Here are the details of my setup:


- Device Model: Solartron 1260 Impedance/Gain-Phase Analyzer
- Connection: Interface through PCIB
- Software: NI MAX
- Issue: Timeout error EABO during GPIB read operation

- Troubleshooting Steps: Adjusted timeout settings, adjusted bytes, changed addresses, checked GPIB command syntax, changed GPIB

 I would greatly appreciate any advice on the proper GPIB commands for reading measurements from a Solartron 1260 or any troubleshooting steps that might resolve this timeout error.

Thank you in advance for your help!

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  • Abdul
    Abdul over 2 years ago +4
    Subject: Successful Update: Command Reading on NI MAX Interface Achieved! Dear Element14 Community, I have successfully configured the NI MAX interface to read commands from the impedance analyzer…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz +3
    I read the paper. Very useful to learn / understand a working conversation for this brand. Warning to Abdul , at the end of the paper, the writer explains how one of his scripts damaged the instrument…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +2
    You could also check for code for other Solartron products of that era, in case you can spot any difference. For instance, a student used a 1260A here: https://www.slideshare.net/JosephHaystead/enel301…
  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    Agree, the OP needs to try different things, systematically, and confirm which things definitely work and which do not, i.e. just experiment a bit and, most likely, understand that the previous attempt could have left the instrument in a state where it can't handle the next attempt, so some reboots occasionally too! (although that can kill old instruments : (

    Also weirdly just noticed this:

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    versus:

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    i.e. there's no question-mark for SI. I don't understand the SCPI rules enough to know if that's non-standard, but probably the instrument is so old, some unorthodoxness may be the case : (

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  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    there's no question-mark for SI. I don't understand the SCPI rules enough to know if that's non-standard, but probably the instrument is so old, some unorthodoxness may be the case : (

    They only use SCPI for the IEEE 488 commands (the ones in  michaelkellett 's capture). The rest of the set is proprietary.

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  • johnwaynetexas
    0 johnwaynetexas over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Yes, the 1260A is very useful. From electrochemistry (very low frequencies) to low RF (30 MHz). Do you need a functioning backup machine?

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  • michaelkellett
    0 michaelkellett over 2 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Now we are left wondering if the *IDN in the Solatron manual is a typo for *IDN?

    I didn't understand the trace data that Abdul captured with the NI interface.

    I don't know why Abdul sent OP 2,1?  - it isn't a query and that isn't what the Solatron example does.

    @Abdul - do you have the operating manual ?

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    I've found that some instruments never talk sensibly again after an error until you reset them, sometimes with a press of the LOCAL button or equivalent or sometimes with a power cycle.

    MK

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Same as the 1260A python code, no question-mark used for their custom OP command (although they did use the question-mark on the normal IDN? command):

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to johnwaynetexas

    I unfortunately don't. But definitely looks to be an excellent instrument for scientific purposes.

    My needs are not that specialist, so for now I use other ways to measure impedance (LCR meter, VNA, etc), depending on the requirement at the time.

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  • Abdul
    0 Abdul over 2 years ago

    Subject: Successful Update: Command Reading on NI MAX Interface Achieved!

    Dear Element14 Community,

    I have successfully configured the NI MAX interface to read commands from the impedance analyzer. My apologies for the delayed update,

    Here's a brief overview of the approach that led to this breakthrough:

    1. Firstly on the impedance analyzer 1260, press the “DATA OUTPUT” hard key.
    2. Select the GPIB option and choose the [dump all] setting. This configuration allows the PC to control the impedance analyzer, facilitating efficient data management and analysis.
    3. In the VISA test panel of NI MAX, enable the termination character to ensure smooth communication. All remaining settings are configured to their default values even the time out settings too

    For detailed command usage, Referring to Chapter 8 (Remote Commands) of the impedance analyzer's operating manual Model 1260. I've also attached screenshots to illustrate the setup and provide clearer guidance.

    I must extend my heartfelt thanks to the Element14 community, particularly shabaz, Jan Cumps , Andrew J , and michaelkellett for their invaluable guidance and expertise throughout this process. Thank you.

    Warm regards,

    Abdul 

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  • md_steve
    0 md_steve over 2 years ago in reply to Abdul

    Congratulations! I couldn't help you but I'm glad others here were able to jump in and help. What a resource we have here, eh?  

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  • michaelkellett
    0 michaelkellett over 2 years ago in reply to Abdul

    Hello, really happy you got it going.

    Older instruments can be quite a pain to hook up on GPIB.

    MK

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