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Power amplifier using flyback converter

Maxbiggair
Maxbiggair over 1 year ago

 There is a kind of converter I need help on. It is a buck-boost converter but the inductor is replaced by a steel toroid core transformer with a core power of 2025W max, it has a primary input and two secondary output 250 turns 1:1:1 each. 

The transistor is changed to a MOSFET and is driven by a 555 timer pwm circuit. Powered by a 12V, 75AH Battery 

Flyback voltage is tapped out from the primary coil and the high current is tapped from the first secondary coil through the use of diode and capacitors. 

The high voltage and high current is combined and fed to the inverter converting it to 50Hz AC. The output of the inverter is connected to the first secondary coil. Which is the same coil that the high current capacitor is drawing current from.

The second secondary coil will be the output whereby a band pass filter will be used to extract the 50Hz frequency from the transformer.

The goal is to provide good efficiency while reducing the cost.

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  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair +2
    if not familiar with component symbols, please draw the components as they are physically connected and mark the toroid windings with colors to see which winding connects to what. i would again recommend…
  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair +2
    do you think we have time to try to decipher your drawing and engineer a solution for you for free? especially after that response? good luck in your endeavours!
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair +2
    That's very rude considering people are trying to help you. Your diagram doesn't use standard symbols, and it's impossible for anyone to get inside your mind to understand precisely what was meant by…
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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago

    It sounds strange to me to connect the AC output to the input transformer. Could you post the schematic?

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  • Maxbiggair
    Maxbiggair over 1 year ago in reply to dougw

    Well am not good at schematics but I hope you understand this.  image

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  • Maxbiggair
    Maxbiggair over 1 year ago in reply to Anthocyanina

    Am not good at schematics.

    But you should know that the PWM is connected to the gate 

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  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    yeah, that's not the problem, if you're using an N channel fet, you connect the positive of the DC source to the first pin of the transformer primary, and the other pin goes to drain, and you connect source to ground. the connection shown in your drawing doesn't seem to be doing that

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  • Maxbiggair
    Maxbiggair over 1 year ago in reply to Anthocyanina

    Let say am using a reference node 

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  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    if not familiar with component symbols, please draw the components as they are physically connected and mark the toroid windings with colors to see which winding connects to what. 

    i would again recommend you read the flyback blogs i shared. flyback converters are one of the simplest dc to dc converter topologies to learn, even if you only have a basic understanding of electronics.

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  • Maxbiggair
    Maxbiggair over 1 year ago in reply to Anthocyanina

    Do you think I have time 

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    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    do you think we have time to try to decipher your drawing and engineer a solution for you for free? especially after that response? good luck in your endeavours! Slight smile

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    shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    That's very rude considering people are trying to help you.

    Your diagram doesn't use standard symbols, and it's impossible for anyone to get inside your mind to understand precisely what was meant by each part of your diagram.

    You would need to put into standard symbols that everyone can understand, or try the approach of sketching the actual connections, rather than that pseudo-"diagram" you have currently.

    It's like language; if you're speaking a different language, how can anyone help without it being translated? Your diagram needs to be translated, and there's no translator in the world that can do that if you're using your own unique terminology that is only known to you.

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  • Maxbiggair
    Maxbiggair over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz

    I can't do that now because of my battery situation. Sorry if you think am rude. And in my country electricity isn't that good in my area. At this time in our country we are in the night presently with no electricity.

    Maybe during the day I will try but it may look rough 

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  • colporteur
    colporteur over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    Your battery situation is limited. The resources in the E14 community are limited. Step back and think how can you best maximize both limited resources? 

    The community needs information (i.e. accurate).

    What are you trying to accomplish? Build a circuit? Repair a circuit? Reverse engineer a circuit?

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    shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    Also, what loads is it intended for?

    Often the most efficient way might be different, because many appliances have inefficiencies too, when they have to step-down from AC back to a lower DC supply. It's getting possible to power a lot of equipment directly from DC, e.g. 24V, for instance,

    USB-C offers 100W or so to laptops to power directly, and USB-C can operate from a 12V or 24V source. Similarly, a lot of office lighting now works with DC (Power over Ethernet), so even if PoE is not used, there is still good precedent for operating room lighting at low voltage, even if there are two sets of lighting, one for when AC power is available.

    .You may find the options are very good for powering a lot of equipment from a DC source (one or more car batteries for 12, 24 or higher voltage), and save a lot of energy due to fewer conversions, leaving any conversion to AC for the remaining few devices.

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    shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Maxbiggair

    Also, what loads is it intended for?

    Often the most efficient way might be different, because many appliances have inefficiencies too, when they have to step-down from AC back to a lower DC supply. It's getting possible to power a lot of equipment directly from DC, e.g. 24V, for instance,

    USB-C offers 100W or so to laptops to power directly, and USB-C can operate from a 12V or 24V source. Similarly, a lot of office lighting now works with DC (Power over Ethernet), so even if PoE is not used, there is still good precedent for operating room lighting at low voltage, even if there are two sets of lighting, one for when AC power is available.

    .You may find the options are very good for powering a lot of equipment from a DC source (one or more car batteries for 12, 24 or higher voltage), and save a lot of energy due to fewer conversions, leaving any conversion to AC for the remaining few devices.

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