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UKCA (or CE) marking required for LED ceiling lamps?

Andrew J
Andrew J over 1 year ago

One for the sparkys here in the UK: does an LED ceiling lamp sold in the UK market require a UKCA (or CE) marking?  Any other marking to show regulatory compliance, if necessary?

I ask, because I have received a LED ceiling lamp that has 7 arms with LEDs in a round metal holder at the ends.  It is intended for direct connection to the 240V lighting circuit with the full voltage going to each metal holder at the end of the arms (no earthing point in those metal holders.)

The ceiling rose is also metal, has no earthing point, has 30AWG (or close) out to the LED holders intended to be connected to supplied (but not fitted) slightly thicker wires which then need to be connected to the lighting circuit.  Frankly, it looks dangerous to me and I'm not installing it; really I ought to have known better but there you go, impulse purchase.

I'm going to push for money back and wanted to know if a lack of regulatory marking was something I could add to the evidence.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J +4
    Offer it to the altar of the god of unsafe UK appliances: https://www.bigclive.com/
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago +2
    Not going to comment on UK standards, but on the safety and grounding expectations: Does it have this symbol for double isolation on it? That would define that it's supposed to be wired without ground…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps +2
    If they don't send me a return label perhaps I will
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  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 1 year ago

    Not going to comment on UK standards, but on the safety and grounding expectations:

    Does it have this symbol for double isolation on it?

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    That would define that it's supposed to be wired without ground.

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    0 Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    No, no markings.  I know to look out for that one.  It really is as cheap and nasty as I describe it.  I dug deep into the bowels of UK legislation and it seems pretty clear that anything above 50V AC has regulatory compliance requirements: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electrical-equipment-safety-regulations-2016/electrical-equipment-safety-regulations-2016-great-britain

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    0 Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    No, no markings.  I know to look out for that one.  It really is as cheap and nasty as I describe it.  I dug deep into the bowels of UK legislation and it seems pretty clear that anything above 50V AC has regulatory compliance requirements: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electrical-equipment-safety-regulations-2016/electrical-equipment-safety-regulations-2016-great-britain

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  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J

    Offer it to the altar of the god of unsafe UK appliances: https://www.bigclive.com/

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    0 Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    If they don't send me a return label perhaps I will Grinning

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    0 beacon_dave over 1 year ago in reply to Andrew J
    Andrew J said:
    It really is as cheap and nasty as I describe it.

    Perhaps time for sharing some photos ?

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    0 Andrew J over 1 year ago in reply to beacon_dave

    I will if they don't ask for it back.  I don't want to unpack it again and risk something breaking.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Hehe that would be worth watching! BC is awesome. His was probably the first electronics website I ever saw. 

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