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cloudff7
cloudff7 23 days ago

Why do some electronic devices that were working stop working if they remain unpowered for long periods? Is there an explanation for this and is it possible to avoid it?

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 23 days ago +3
    Components especially electrolytic capacitors dry out. It not from use but age. I have a set of hips that have the same problem:)
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    colporteur 22 days ago in reply to anniel747 +2
    Quality parts improve the longevity of equipment. Design and manufacturing also play a part. On a recent trip to the Panama canal, the tour guide operator was providing a comparison commentary between…
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    colporteur 22 days ago in reply to anniel747 +2
    Sorry about that:) I'm retired and the missus has gone to work so I have some downtime to read and write. I enjoy hanging out with the people here. 40 years that expanded five different careers in…
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  • dang74
    dang74 12 days ago

    Some things I encountered with old electronics are:

    1) Oxidation on a flex cable within a DVD player

    2) Broken belts on cassette players

    3) Leadfree solder joints turning dull and brittle after 8 years

    4) A turntable belt becoming sticky like a fruit roll up over time

    5) Switches that make poor and inconsistent contact

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    anniel747 11 days ago in reply to dang74

    dang74 All those are common. You could also add bad caps (capacitor plague), tin whiskers and yellow glue of death.

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    dang74 11 days ago in reply to anniel747

    Agreed with bad caps.  I have a C64 with a bad synch pulse and no sound.... I have not opened it up yet.... but bad electrolytic capacitors are my number one suspect all the same.... you will have to elaborate on the 'yellow glue of death' though.

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    anniel747 11 days ago in reply to dang74

    dang74 Also known as Sony glue disease or yellow glue disease. Over time glue turns conductive and creates shorts and fires. Common problem from the 70's right to this day.

    https://sound-au.com/articles/yellow-glue.htm

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    anniel747 11 days ago in reply to dang74

    dang74 Nice pics.

    www.audiosciencereview.com/.../index.php

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    anniel747 11 days ago in reply to dang74
    dang74 said:
    bad electrolytic capacitors are my number one suspect all the same

    Easy fix.

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    dang74 11 days ago in reply to anniel747

    Thanks for sharing the article.  Very informative.

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    kmikemoo 9 days ago in reply to anniel747

     anniel747 I learned of this glue issue a few years back and was completely shocked.  It is real.  I have not seen fires, but shorts... yes.  My experience was in amateur radios - specifically Kenwoods, but I'm sure that it effects others.  Clean it out and the radio is healed.

    "Clean it out" is NOT an easy or fast process. Laughing

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    anniel747 8 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    kmikemoo You are right. Also seen in Icom and Yaesu radios. Hi-Fi is also struck by this, Pioneer, Yamaha. I guess all japanese electronics used it at some point. Easiest way to remove cleanly is to freeze it.

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    anniel747 8 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    kmikemoo 

    www.audiosciencereview.com/.../index.php

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    kmikemoo 8 days ago in reply to anniel747

    anniel747 I will try to remember the freezing approach.  My "one million Q-Tips" approach took forever.  I tried an Exactor knife - and had to replace the capacitor that I damaged. Expressionless  Patience is not my strong suit.

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    anniel747 8 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    kmikemoo It also gets quite corrosive with time, your capacitor was probably already damaged.

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    anniel747 8 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    kmikemoo It also gets quite corrosive with time, your capacitor was probably already damaged.

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