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Nordic Semiconductor announces nRF54 series with ARM Cortex and RISC-V co-processor

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embeddedguy over 2 years ago

Nordic Semiconductor has announced new nRF54 series with number of new features.

The new device will be low-power compared to the previous one such as nRF53 so it can operate on tiny battery.

The announcement page have following specification listed.

""The nRF54H20 boasts multiple Arm® Cortex®-M33 processors and multiple RISC-V coprocessors. The processors are clocked at up to 320 MHz and each processor is optimized for a specific type of workload""

At the first impression it looks like the new device will be suitable for ML at the edge projects, At the same time it will have low power and high RF sensitivity. The device will also reduce the amount of components needed to make prototype PCBs. The reason is that it will have more memory in the chip itself and SoC itself will have integrated components for the design. It will have very good(advanced) security features.

www.nordicsemi.com/.../Nordic-Semiconductor-redefines-its-leadership-in-Bluetooth-Low-Energy-with-the-nRF54-Series

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui +3
    ... because I'm sure choosing such a chip would reduce the RISC of having the wrong core ... - Gough
  • misaz
    misaz over 2 years ago +2
    Some well known Nordic features like cursed footprint remains untouched, so everything is ok.
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago +1
    I wonder if this is a transition strategy ... give us the ARM we know ... sprinkled with some RISC until everyone gets comfortable? - Gough
  • misaz
    misaz over 2 years ago

    Some well known Nordic features like cursed footprint remains untouched, so everything is ok. Slight smile

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago

    I wonder if this is a transition strategy ... give us the ARM we know ... sprinkled with some RISC until everyone gets comfortable?

    - Gough

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    ... because I'm sure choosing such a chip would reduce the RISC of having the wrong core ...

    - Gough

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  • misaz
    misaz over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    I think the core type is not important but it's properties are. In most cases RISC-V core included in SoC has much less capabilities than ARM but has better properties in terms of power consumption, simplicity, occupied die area and overal cost. For example Maxim describes reasons why they did selected RISC-V instead of yet another CM4 in MAX32655 chip (from practical point of view MAX32655 is competitor to Nordic nrf5 chips including this new one and target similar applications): https://www.analog.com/en/technical-articles/the-max32655-why-two-cores-are-better-than-one.html

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago in reply to misaz

    Well, I would be inclined to agree ... there has always been a RISC/CISC ideology battle. Beyond a point, you get into the complexity of large ISAs such as x86-64 where some chip designs are actually instead breaking complex instructions down .... while some of ARM's IP is gaining complexity to meet increasing performance demands and perhaps losing a little efficiency in the process.

    But perhaps what is most interesting to me for RISC-V is the open, royalty-free nature ... no licensing fees may make a bit of difference for low-cost/high-volume applications. Many sensor nodes really don't need much "brains" because there's very rudimentary on-device processing in most cases (although I think this may change in the future) - so if the die is small, simple, uses low-power ... I'm all for it :).

    - Gough

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  • embeddedguy
    embeddedguy over 2 years ago in reply to misaz

    As misaz mentioned about the competition and MAC32655 is a competitor for the Nordic nrf5 series of chips, I guess Nordic might be well aware of another competitor and that's ESP32Grin. Some of the Esp series has RISC processors and I guess this one will for sure can challenge it as it has advantages of both ARM and RISC. The Nordic is saying that there will be multiple of these processors in one SoC meaning for sure this device can do ML tasks faster then others.

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  • misaz
    misaz over 2 years ago in reply to embeddedguy

    I think in case of ML more important will become dedicated accelerators independent on CPU rather than fast CPU. This trend we can see for example in Renesas MPU announced last years. Some MCUs with AI accelerators are also comming to market and some fo them are already avalaible. For example MAX78000, MAX78002 with CNN accelerator (64 small computational cores optimized for ML operations), but these mentioned has no BLE.

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  • dang74
    dang74 over 2 years ago

    Interesting that they have both ARM Cortex and RISC-V architectures.  I can't help but to sing the old Lovin' Spoonful song, "Did you Ever Have to Make Up Your Mind?"

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  • embeddedguy
    embeddedguy over 2 years ago in reply to dang74

    Good thoughts..

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