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Home appliances causing 60 fires a week in the UK.. ideas to reduce the risk

shabaz
shabaz over 7 years ago

Posting in IoT for lack of a better section.. and solutions or monitoring of home appliances may use IoT.

 

I was quite surprised to see this statistic : (

Faulty appliances 'cause 60 fires a week' - BBC News

It seems a huge number. Apparently this is mainly due to washing machines and tumble dryers. The following article discusses what causes the fires for tumble dryers, and how to reduce the risk of it:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/five-rules-stop-your-tumble-14112798

 

I've never had a tumble dryer (I use a clothes line if it isn't raining) so I can't be sure, but reading through that article, it seems the procedure to reduce the risk is really onerous. The article suggests vacuuming around the dryer and fluff can accumulate at the rear of the dryer. I can't imagine many people moving a dryer to vacuum behind it frequently, because of the weight of it, and presumably some are integrated (bolted) into position. This video only discusses how to clean fluff from the front filter, which looks easy enough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQruzikHdQI  but it doesn't address the other areas that may need to be regularly inspected and cleaned.

 

The article also discusses that tumble dryers should not be operated at night when people are asleep, or when no one is at home. To me, that seems like the lowest-hanging technical workaround until tumble dryers can be made safer; retro-fitting them for free, with a lockout system that will prevent operation unless light and motion (i.e. occupancy with activity) can be sensed - perhaps by Bluetooth. If either light or motion is not sensed for longer than (say) ten minutes then the dryer could be powered down. A fire alarm should also be fitted for free if one is not already fitted. Anything less seems unreasonable, considering tumble dryer manufacturers must know their machines pose such a high risk.

 

How do other people manage the risk? I would trust myself not to use a tumble dryer in the evening, but what if someone fell asleep on the sofa during the daytime and no-one else was at home. Or teenagers. Can they really be trusted to avoid using a tumble dryer at night, and adhering to the no house-parties rules : ) when parents are traveling?

 

And on another note.. it will be likely country-specific, but it would be good to hear advice on fitting fire alarms in locations where washing machines and tumble dryers will be fitted - e.g. what type of alarm, what distance is recommended, etc, from those who are experienced in this area. It would be valuable information to a lot of people.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 7 years ago +4
    it seems the procedure to reduce the risk is really onerous. The article suggests vacuuming around the dryer and fluff can accumulate at the rear of the dryer. Many older style dryers don't vent outside…
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    phoenixcomm over 7 years ago +4
    For Sure RTFM. BUT folks today don't read them, So here's what I propose in order. 1. Color Action Comic 2. Instructional Video on DVD 3. Same as #1 and #2 but on a flash drive. 4. None of the above as…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 7 years ago in reply to mcb1 +4
    Ah, I didn't realise they were light. The machine in the video appears to have some labels near the opening, but I guess some people won't make the connection that following these are critical to safety…
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  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 7 years ago

    So regarding Clothes Driers

    Mine is a GAS drier, we have had one for over 25 years with no issues, most folks have an electric one as it is easier to install.

    Mine uses a small amount of power for logic and the motor but the actual drying is via a rather large "Flame Thrower" in the base of the unit, the flames end a long way from the actual drying chamber and there are several interlocks and thermal trips for protection.

    The biggest issue is lint buildup in the vent (My Vent is about 30 - 40 feet before exiting the house), but the worst that has happened so far is the drying time gets longer until you clean out the 4" pipes, not a big job and there never too blocked either

    My Water heater storage tank is also GAS heated, not electric, very efficient and easy to install. and pretty much maintenance free

     

    An electric dryer will consume masses amount of power / Amps and I would guess it is probably bad electrical connections heating up and catching fire that causes this problem.

     

    Oh and here like most countries these days we have multi rated electricity so people are encouraged to use the power hungry appliances at night when the rates are lowest, My gas supply has no such limits.

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    mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    My Water heater storage tank is also GAS heated

    Ours is the On demand version ... highly recommended if you have teenagers, or a bach/vacation house.

    We have 45kg bottles because there is no gas reticulation, but they'll run on a 9kg bottle ...

     

    Interestingly our is Rinnai and the gas useage rate goes up if you leave it heating at 55 degsC when you really only need water at 38-40.

    Even the gas delivery man can tell those that have (and use) the controller and those that don't ... by the amount of times he comes to renew the bottles.

     

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    mcb1 over 7 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    My Water heater storage tank is also GAS heated

    Ours is the On demand version ... highly recommended if you have teenagers, or a bach/vacation house.

    We have 45kg bottles because there is no gas reticulation, but they'll run on a 9kg bottle ...

     

    Interestingly our is Rinnai and the gas useage rate goes up if you leave it heating at 55 degsC when you really only need water at 38-40.

    Even the gas delivery man can tell those that have (and use) the controller and those that don't ... by the amount of times he comes to renew the bottles.

     

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