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terrydark
terrydark over 11 years ago

Hi everyone,

 

This is my first discussion but I would like to see what the consensus is using  the knowledge and experience of all that have manufactured their own boards using "home brew" techniques.

 

In in your opinion, what is the best or perhaps economical and least fiddly of the methods for producing pcb boards via DIY?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Terry

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 11 years ago +1
    As far as I know there is no convenient or free legal way of disposing of the waste products from etching copper from boards. In my youth (alas distant, early 1970s) I poured it down the drain but I understand…
  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago in reply to michaelkellett +1
    I have a set-up in my garage. Agitated ferric-chloride bath, tin plating, wet saw, ventilated drill press, xytable. I have a thermal press that directly transfers stencils from a laser-printer. Haven't…
  • johnbeetem
    johnbeetem over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey +1
    Don Hersey wrote: Another technique is to buy generic PCBs and modify them. The 'op-amp evaluation boards' from the few remaining linear players are better than I can make. Ebay ones from China for…
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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    I use blue laser print film with a laminate press for toner fusion.  If your design is two sided you need to make a couple registration holes.  I use CorelDraw for making my images as this gives me better control as it doesn't understand circuit boards.  This way for instance, I can drop footprints atop each other if I want to late-bind to the form-factor of the parts I want to use.  Scrub your board with fine steel wool.  Wear eye protection when etching.  I bought a commercial etch bath with an aerator for an agitator and a robust aquarium heater.  I use ferric chloride, I like that it isn't fast.  The stuff stains like crazy.  Sometimes, large ground planes craze with the blue film, so I back them up with a chisel-point sharpie and/or tape.

     

    Be patient and experiment.  Sometimes you have to do range-of-parameter tests like in chemical photography.

     

    I think the milling machines for circuit boards run about 5K.  They are up to doing multiple layers, nowadays.

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    D_Hersey over 11 years ago

    I use blue laser print film with a laminate press for toner fusion.  If your design is two sided you need to make a couple registration holes.  I use CorelDraw for making my images as this gives me better control as it doesn't understand circuit boards.  This way for instance, I can drop footprints atop each other if I want to late-bind to the form-factor of the parts I want to use.  Scrub your board with fine steel wool.  Wear eye protection when etching.  I bought a commercial etch bath with an aerator for an agitator and a robust aquarium heater.  I use ferric chloride, I like that it isn't fast.  The stuff stains like crazy.  Sometimes, large ground planes craze with the blue film, so I back them up with a chisel-point sharpie and/or tape.

     

    Be patient and experiment.  Sometimes you have to do range-of-parameter tests like in chemical photography.

     

    I think the milling machines for circuit boards run about 5K.  They are up to doing multiple layers, nowadays.

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    terrydark over 11 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Thanks Don,

     

    Can you put a name and product number to the blue film?  I have seen an ad for a green film called Pulsar Green TRF Foil   I was thinking of trying it and a toner transfer paper they sell if someone thought it was good to try or is it not worth the trouble.  I am yet to find anyone.  We have seen a product sold at one of the Australian electronic stores but it is $35 for 5 sheets. It is called Press 'n' Peel and looks similar to the product in Fran Blanche's PCB video on youtube. It may go under a different name in the US, Europe or UK.  Any good and if so, can you get it cheaper?

     

    5K is a bit out of my price range - at least this year at any rate.  The hackerspace I visited have a DIY mill.  Any one on this thread done this? Any luck?  A chemical free way would be nice.

     

    Regards

     

    Terry

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