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How is this RS485 module working?

rishi2628
rishi2628 over 9 years ago

I am using an RS485 module :- http://www.elecrow.com/uart-ttl-to-rs485-twoway-converter-p-1545.html

This module is bidirectional and uses a single pair of differential signal to transmit/receive data. My question is how is the chip deciding whether it has to transmit data from TX to A+ B- or from A+ B- to RX?. Shouldn't there be 2 pairs of differential signal, one pair for TX and the other pair for RX? What is happening in this module??

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 9 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +2
    The clue is probably the diode in the middle. My guess would be a simple re-triggerable monostable (Schottky diode, cap and resistor) running from the transmit data to control the transceiver's direction…
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    johnbeetem over 9 years ago +1
    RS-485 is usually a half-duplex protocol with a single master and multiple slaves sharing a single A+B- differential pair. The master sends out a "poll" request and then disables its transmitter while…
  • gadget.iom
    gadget.iom over 9 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +1
    Hi johnbeetem I didn't want to add too much detail to yet another of these open-ended questions. But as this thread now has parties worth communicating properly with... I completely agree with your counterfeit…
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    0 johnbeetem over 9 years ago

    RS-485 is usually a half-duplex protocol with a single master and multiple slaves sharing a single A+B- differential pair.  The master sends out a "poll" request and then disables its transmitter while it waits for a reply.  The poll request includes an address, and the slave that matches the request replies to the poll, enabling its transmitter for the length of the message.  Only one device at a time drives the A+B- pair.

     

    I can't see how this module works.  Usually there's an extra TTL pin to enable the transmitter.  It's usually tied to the UART's RTS signal.  The product page does not show IC chip numbers, so you can't figure out how it works or whether the ICs are anything other than counterfeit junk.

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    0 jc2048 over 9 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    The clue is probably the diode in the middle. My guess would be a simple re-triggerable monostable (Schottky diode, cap and resistor) running from the transmit data to control the transceiver's direction. The large chip might just be CMOS logic buffers or inverters.

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    0 gadget.iom over 9 years ago in reply to jc2048

    Thats also entirely likey. image

    Difficult to tell with anonymous chips. Though the Data Direction connections do appear to be routed to Pin 12 on U2.

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    0 gadget.iom over 9 years ago in reply to jc2048

    Thats also entirely likey. image

    Difficult to tell with anonymous chips. Though the Data Direction connections do appear to be routed to Pin 12 on U2.

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