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18650 Battery Length Variation

ralphjy
ralphjy over 4 years ago

I just committed an inadvertent blunder that I thought I'd share in case it might help others.

 

I ordered a couple of 18650 Lithium Ion batteries for a robot vehicle that I'm building.  I saw that these batteries were "protected" at the point that I ordered them, but did not consider the implication - after all an 18650 has a standard dimension as the name suggests, right?  Well, it turns out that the protection circuit increases the length of the battery - in this instance by slightly more than 3 mm and I'd probably have to destroy the battery holder to get them to fit.  Oh well, I can probably use these in a flashlight image.  I'll need to order new unprotected ones for the robot.  I'm a little surprised that the clips in the battery holder don't give a little more.

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 4 years ago +4
    Most Li-Ion batteries come in several types - - Large Button - these cells have large and wide contact areas which protrude from the positive side of the cell, usually only by a small amount. This allows…
  • genebren
    genebren over 4 years ago +2
    Ralph, Protected refers to preventing reverse insertion of the battery (at least for a button top battery). Protected holders have a rim constructed around the positive contact such that only the button…
  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to javagoza +2
    Obviously, I didn't do a good job of checking the specs either ... It was a combo kit of two batteries and a charger from Dantona Industries (China) that I bought on DigiKey https://www.digikey.com/en…
  • genebren
    genebren over 4 years ago

    Ralph,

     

    Protected refers to preventing reverse insertion of the battery (at least for a button top battery).  Protected holders have a rim constructed around the positive contact such that only the button top fits into the opening. You can not reverse the insertion.  I have had some luck in clipping out the rim around the contact and using it with a non-button top battery.

     

    Good luck!
    Gene

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    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to genebren

    Gene,

     

    This is actually a protected battery not a protected holder.  Unfortunately, it would not prevent the battery from making contact if it were inserted backwards.  I’m thinking that this holder is designed for flat top batteries, but I probably could have used a button top without the extra length - I could be wrong.  I’ve ordered flat tops that have the length dimension specified.

     

    Ralph

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 4 years ago

    Most Li-Ion batteries come in several types -

    - Large Button - these cells have large and wide contact areas which protrude from the positive side of the cell, usually only by a small amount. This allows the cells to be stacked.

    - Small Button - these cells have smaller contact areas on the positive side, looking similar to the "nipple" on an AA battery. These also allow the cell to be stacked but also ensures it clears physical reverse polarity protection mechanisms in some devices (e.g. flashlights).

    - Flat Top - true flat tops are "flush" to the top of the cell and thus won't make contact when stacked. These cells have the shortest (usually nominal) length.

    - Protected - as you discovered, usually has a protection circuit either near the positive or negative terminal that prevents overcurrent, overdischarge and overcharge. This allows the cells to be used in series applications safely with no risk of a single cell becoming overdischarged in use, but it does add length. The length actually depends on the design of the protection circuit, so the length could range from ~68mm to 71mm.

     

    - Gough

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  • javagoza
    javagoza over 4 years ago

    Hi!

    Could you include a reference to the product, I would not like to have the same problem in the future.

    Unfortunately I am one of those who read the specifications after having bought the product. image

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  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Thanks, that's helpful info.  I haven't purchased individual 18650 batteries before - I've bought a few already installed in enclosures.  I just opened a battery pack I use with M5Sticks and that battery is a REALLY tight fit in the holder!  And it is a flat top and measures slightly less than 65 mm in length. 

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    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to javagoza

    Obviously, I didn't do a good job of checking the specs either image...

     

    It was a combo kit of two batteries and a charger from Dantona Industries (China) that I bought on DigiKey https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/dantona-industries/UL1865K-26/13692690 .

     

    I've found a listing of what appears to be the same battery except the labeling looks different https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/dantona-industries/LION-1865-26/13692661 and that battery does have an over-sized dimension specified.

     

    Size / Dimension

     

    0.80" Dia x 2.60" H (20.3mm x 66.0mm)

     

     

    I measured the ones I have and they are both 18.5 x 69.0 mm (including the button).

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