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What is the negative 12 volt supply used for in an ATX motherboard?

scottiebabe
scottiebabe over 1 year ago

Technology...  Never-ending compatibility problems....

Here is the 24-pin ATX connector of my new power supply

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Two of the pins are missing.

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Pin 20 was formally -5V and has been omitted from ATX power supplies for a very long time.

No negative 12 volt supply for me! Somehow I missed that looking at the product spec, and no one seem to mention it either.

Here is the ATX V3.0 power specification

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https://www.cybenetics.com/attachs/52.pdf 

The negative 12V supply is optional... great!

What is the negative 12V supply used for?

I am just going off the b350 chipset motherboard schematics available here: https://github.com/YeaTheMen/am4-motherboard/tree/main/Other%20Board%20Schematics 

In many cases nothing.

In one case an RS232 line driver/receiver 

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In another case, an amplifier/buffer for a second audio line out for the front panel

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Something to watch out for. In the two examples above, having the -12V rail tied to ground wouldn't be catastrophic, though the op-amp and rs232 would not function as intended... 

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 1 year ago +5
    This is a known issue for a very small minority of users - generally speaking, you don't cross ATX major version numbers if you want to be sure. That means old 20-pin boards generally require an ATX 1…
  • bradfordmiller
    bradfordmiller over 1 year ago +4
    Once upon a time, EEPROMs like the 6834 would need +5 and -12; EPROMs would use +5, -5 and +12.
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    anniel747 over 1 year ago +1
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    scottiebabe over 1 year ago in reply to anniel747

    I just referenced them, because they are easily accessible. My PC is nothing fancy a Ryzen 5 3600 with a b450 chipset...

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