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What is you surge suppression experience

colporteur
colporteur 2 months ago

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Key Features • Supports 10/100/1000/10GBASE-T Ethernet speeds • Full PoE, PoE+, and PoE++ (IEEE 802.3af/at/bt) compatibility • Supports up to 90W of power delivery • IP65-rated waterproof outdoor enclosure • Designed to protect against lightning strikes and electrical surges • Ultra-low capacitance for high-speed data performance • Fast response time for critical equipment protection • Simple inline RJ45 installation • Flexible mounting options for poles, enclosures, and walls • Tested to international surge protection standards Ideal Applications • Outdoor wireless radios and backhaul links • Fixed wireless and WISP deployments • Outdoor WiFi access points • IP surveillance and security cameras • Network switches and outdoor enclosures • Industrial networking and SCADA systems • Municipal, campus, and enterprise network infrastructure

I am on my third install of CAT6 cables to Access points on the top of grain bins. This advertisement for Data Surge Protection Outdoor SPD IP65 10GB Ethernet came across my desk.

Many a fault over 20 years working in telecommunications were repaired on two wire copper pairs by replacing the fuse or surge suppressor. I never gave a thought to network cable. Then I was never running them up the side of grain bins. Now I'm thinking about them after the ad appeared to remind me.

Looking to find anyone that has experience and can provide some insight.

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 2 months ago in reply to Jan Cumps +2
    The CAT6 cable runs are outside the bin. On some other bins there are GPS antennas and cameras. I default to the yard supervisor for installation. He hasn't told me NO to this point. I would have thought…
  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 2 months ago in reply to colporteur +2
    Ah... so kind of telecom to provide you with some lightning protection. I think you are at low risk of a direct strike but still at average risk of the elevated ground plane created by a near lightning…
  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 2 months ago in reply to colporteur +2
    That is a reasonable question. Another IT guy would probably read any notes you have on the AP or network map. To everyone else... connectivity is magic. Even if you tell them, they will forget. SO...…
  • colporteur
    colporteur 2 months ago in reply to cstanton

    I'm OK with changing the forum. I like the discussion, it is expanding my knowledge.

    What if anything do I need to do?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz 1 month ago in reply to cstanton

    There's an AI attempt (seems quite reasonable.. attached).

    It is in a few formats. I asked the AI to preserve all the details of suggestions, and only use the material in the discussion and comments, no external content.

    Depending on if colporteur is OK with it, perhaps it could become a blog? Then it could have longer visibility (hopefully indexed by Google) since it is an interesting topic as mentioned.

    surge_suppression_blog.zip

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 1 month ago in reply to geralds

    Many of my endpoints are PoE because of power. PoF power over fiber would be a game changer. I have visions of what the sfp would look like.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 1 month ago in reply to colporteur
    colporteur said:
    PoF power over fiber would be a game changer

    Sounds familiar Joy Trumpet 

    Microwave and Optical Technology Letters, 2003
    Interference-free optical power delivery for electronics modules

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  • geralds
    geralds 1 month ago in reply to colporteur

    Hi  colporteur,

    Ah, yes, I see.

    In that case, the situation is somewhat complex.

    PoF (Power over Fiber) works only on a photovoltaic basis.

    —>> there are optocouplers consisting of an LED and a solar cell within a single IC (photovoltaic optocouplers).
    However, the current they can supply is very low.

    One idea:
    fiber optics — 1 transmitter and 1 receiver (FDDI standard) — combined with a solar charge-pump converter (using the free fibers as the light source) to power the remote module. A fiber optic cable typically contains eight fibers, so there are enough fibers available for the power supply converter.

    Regarding your remote modules: what are their power requirements?

      

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  • geralds
    geralds 1 month ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Yes, something like that.

    That’s roughly what I had in mind, only using fiber-optic cables.

    I had to plan projects of this kind in the late 90s and early 2000s, though unfortunately, I was never able to actually implement them; it would have been too expensive for the clients.
    However, back then, I did transmit TV signals over a distance of 100 meters in a hotel using Cat 7 LAN cable and converters. That was a great project.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 1 month ago in reply to geralds

    If I recall correctly, that project back in 2003 was for a medical application. The electronics were to be surgically implanted and powered remotely via the plastic optical fibre which passed through the skin to an external light source to power it.

    Apparently stomach gases (and patients) don't react particularly well to sparks from copper based wires.

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  • geralds
    geralds 1 month ago in reply to beacon_dave

    That would be a great research project.
    I really don't want to lie, but over these years I think... something similar has come to my attention, either through hearings or sights.
    I’ve been reading the electronics magazine *Elektor* for decades (since 1977) and following the EDN website; I’m sure they’ve reported on this topic several times.
    Right now, connections are being made between electronics and bacteria; there is a lot of research going on in this area.
    Well... "We are the Borg!"."You will be assimilated! Resistance is futile!".. Robot

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 1 month ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Me, I gots to git me one of doze.

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    colporteur 1 month ago in reply to geralds

    I've used CAT 6 to carry HDMI. Expensive and not flexible but worked.

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