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What is a robot

Workshopshed
Workshopshed over 9 years ago

What distinguishes a robot from other mechanisms such as a drone or ROV (remotely operated vehicle) ?

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  • spannerspencer
    spannerspencer over 9 years ago +3
    I'm not sure that there's any distinct difference between robots and machinery. As crjeder says, the word "robot" comes from a Czech play, and was invented as a futuristic word for slave. That said, there…
  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 9 years ago +2
    If the drone replaces a humans work either fully or partially, or even assists (I guess that's the same as partially) then it should qualify but if all it does is fly around (Like a model plane or car…
  • gadget.iom
    gadget.iom over 9 years ago +2
    "I can't define a robot, but I know one when I see one." - Joseph Engelberger
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 9 years ago

    Drone vs Robot | Difference Between

    What is drone? - Definition from WhatIs.com

    Drones vs. driverless cars: A tale of two robotics policies - MarketWatch

    There's a lot of misconceptions between the two, but both of them can be autonomous, or not.

    In my opinion, all autonomous thigs are the same, robot and a drone.

    ROV is just a radio controlled vehicle controlled by a human.

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  • Workshopshed
    0 Workshopshed over 9 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Wikipedia has an interesting comment:

    "There is no consensus on which machines qualify as robots but there is general agreement among experts, and the public, that robots tend to do some or all of the following: move around, operate a mechanical limb, sense and manipulate their environment, and exhibit intelligent behavior — especially behavior which mimics humans or other animals. In practical terms, "robot" usually refers to a machine which can be electronically programmed to carry out a variety of physical tasks or actions."

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot

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    0 Former Member over 9 years ago in reply to Workshopshed

    That wiki article includes drones as robots too.

    I don't get it when people tries to differentiate drones from robots, because those are the same, no matter what.

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  • balearicdynamics
    0 balearicdynamics over 9 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Sounds a perfect definition leaving opened a lot of options but pointing to the right direction.

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 9 years ago

    If the drone replaces a humans work either fully or partially, or even assists (I guess that's the same as partially) then it should qualify but if all it does is fly around (Like a model plane or car) but serves no other purpose than entertainment then I would say it is not a ROBOT

     

    So the toy drone not performing deliveries for Amazon or Google but simply a toy for Jonny is not a Robot, the one doing the old work of a human.. Robot loose I know but you get the idea

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    0 Workshopshed over 9 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    Peter, using that "replacing human work" definition and applying it to a lawn mower (which I'd not deem to be a robot) if it was used for mowing the grass would qualify but a lawn mower used for racing would not?

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    0 crjeder over 9 years ago

    To my knowledge robots are named after a Czech word for forced labour. Therefore my definition would be "A machine which carry out work autonomous." (very much like Robert Peter Oakes definition). Workshopshed: the word "autonomous" rules out your lawn mower image

    Drones are unmaned air vehicles traditionally used as target for aiming exercises. They always are remote operated. Nowadays the carry sensors and weapons, too. Use was to my knowledge only military until recently. I personally would not call my qadrocpter a Drone, because of the military implication. A drone is a flying military ROV.

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    0 Robert Peter Oakes over 9 years ago in reply to Workshopshed

    The term is also coupled with semi or full automation / autonomy and as with the drone example, if the lawn mower where cutting the grass autonomously then Robot fits, if your not aotomating it but simple stick a seat on it and drive it around a course as in racing then its not, as is it is more like a car. now if the car was fully automated and replaced the driver then we would be back to a Robot., You would simply be a passenger and perhaps just provide the destination

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    0 spannerspencer over 9 years ago

    I'm not sure that there's any distinct difference between robots and machinery. As crjeder says, the word "robot" comes from a Czech play, and was invented as a futuristic word for slave.

     

    That said, there is a difference between robots and androids, which are machines that are designed to mimic the shape and appearance of a man. So C-3PO could be considered an android, but R2-D2 couldn't  image  When Obi Wan said "These aren't the droids you're looking for," he was half telling the truth!

     

    Also, it's worth knowing (for pub quiz purposes) that android is a masculine term; the female equivalent is a gynoid.

     

    It's also worth noting that this doesn't help you in the slightest, Workshopshed.

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  • balearicdynamics
    0 balearicdynamics over 9 years ago

    Respect the first comments, a robot that do things completely self-referential like moving but totally autonomously without doing nothing else it is not a robot and can be classified in the range of the useless machines image

     

    So if a robot should do something, we have a couple of different approaches to find the answer.

     

    The first is bare mechanical, so anything that can do a series of coordinate actions maybe considered a robot, including some complex yet efficient engines from the previous centutires. By this point of view for example a self-playing piano is a robot that we program with a punched belt then he can repeat what a human can do.

     

    The second approach is that should do something of intelligent and interactive. I mean from the bare concept of answering to a question up to making very complex action sequences.

     

    As the game theory teach us, we should never be distracted by the complexity of the situation, but the moving algorithm. By this point of view it is less "robot" a machine able to do thousand of actions with a super sophisticate program than a simple engine (i.e. a keyboard and a monitor) able to make complex inferences.

     

    The final point in this though is that none of these can be considered robot in terms of "human like things". Independently by the complexity these are knowledge systems and not thinking systems. Cognitive psychologists can enjoy a lot but these are always lifeless dolls. So in a commonly accepted vision the large meaning of the term robot can be covered by any knowledge system able to manage correctly the links of its internal cognitive base (I don't use the term database because it is minimising the concept). Well all these are robots.

     

    So we can define as robot in a generic definition as a mimic system with a - more or less - complex cognitive engine able to interact with the real world depending on some input conditions. No matter is are sensors, a keyboard or a banana. The point is that all these systems out of their context are simply (again) lifeless dolls.

     

    IMO we use the term robot to generically distinguish fully controlled machines (like an excavator) by autonomous ones (in specific and restricted conditions). What I consider as robot it does no matter, my opinion is that this is one of those terms that should be reviewed and their meaning rewritten periodically to update the word to the actual context.

     

    How do you think that the term robot will match with an experiencing system instead of a knowledge based ?

     

    Enrico

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