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Is there really a need for battery-based sensors in the home beyond windows and doors?

user4517
user4517 over 2 years ago

I am in the process of completing a Fuel Oil Tank sensor for my home. I originally worked on code to maximize battery life assuming the need to have a battery, but recently realized I could just implement a USB power converter near the oil tank to feed the sensor. It made me wonder what sensors would require battery support over low voltage direct cable. Here is a list of sensors I believe would not require batteries, and after that list which one's would need batteries. I would enjoy hearing feedback on my list and your perceptions on use of batteries in home sensors.

Don't need batteries:

1 Appliance sensors, including plugs, lights, switches, kitchen appliances, water heater, laundry appliances, HVAC, overall power monitoring and water monitoring.

2. Human location and environmental sensors, including PIM or room movement, environmental (air/gas, temp, level of light, etc.). Also, mmWave sensing for GPS like functionality in the home.

3. Security camaras for outside house where the camaras are mounted on the house (Wi-Fi and POE). In-house camaras that are mounted in the ceiling or in entertainment\computer devices.

Do need batteries:

1. Stand-alone camaras for in-house (Naney cams, or other hidden cameras) Note: many room camera could be connected to existing entertainment or computer devices in a room eliminating the need for batteries

2. External disconnected cameras and environmental sensors (weather stations), and other remote monitoring for security or eventing.

3. Human wearable devices

as you can see the list of Do not need is extensive and the need for most of the do need are limited use, with the only exception being wearable devices.

Let me know what you think.

Pat

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +3
    Hi, This is a good list, but there are circumstances that can cause this to change a bit, especially environment sensors, occupancy sensors and so on, for homes and businesses. Sometimes homes need…
  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago +2
    I avoid batteries whenever possible. What does need a battery? flashlight, TV remote, DVM, camera, cell phone, robot, possibly fire alarm.
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw +2
    I’m the complete opposite and prefer batteries over trailing cables. Having said that I prefer to not have sensors or such like in the home because I find a switch, my finger and my legs very useful for…
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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago

    I avoid batteries whenever possible. What does need a battery? flashlight, TV remote, DVM, camera, cell phone, robot, possibly fire alarm.

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    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    I’m the complete opposite and prefer batteries over trailing cables.  Having said that I prefer to not have sensors or such like in the home because I find a switch, my finger and my legs very useful for turning things on and off!  Obviously, can’t live without devices like remotes but I have no need or desire for home automation.

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    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    I’m the complete opposite and prefer batteries over trailing cables.  Having said that I prefer to not have sensors or such like in the home because I find a switch, my finger and my legs very useful for turning things on and off!  Obviously, can’t live without devices like remotes but I have no need or desire for home automation.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 2 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    You must  have  a drawer full of batteries. I wonder how many spare batteries the members here keep around the house.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    I have a box of 288 AAs about to expire in the office that didn't get used during 'lockdown'. Luckily I have another couple of boxes to see me through... Slight smile

    I probably keep around 100 in a drawer at home. A lot are spares for torches/lanterns 'just in case' so get wasted. Lack of standardisation in size doesn't really help. Ideally want a joule thief juicer that can dump them into a USB power bank or other USB charged device before recycling.   

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to dougw

    I don’t really Doug.  The remote for my tv and CD-R is actually an old iPad so there’s obviously a cable for recharging that.  Smoke alarms are battery driven but they last for years. I’m now struggling to think what I do have thst requires non-rechargeable batteries!!  Ah, my thermostat for central heating requires AA batteries and I probably go through eight a year.  I’m really not into home automation Grinning

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  • user4517
    user4517 over 2 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Wow, that is a lot

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