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  • Date Created: 18 Jul 2014 8:46 PM Date Created
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Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #2: Digital Decoding and Triggering for Analog Analysis

DaveYoung
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18 Jul 2014

Dave Young of Young Circuit Designs is publishing a series of articles and videos on element14 every other week to describe his experience in upgrading from his trusty Tektronix TDS2024B to a new Tektronix MDO3104. See his other articles in the series:

(a) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #1: The 70% Test with a Tek MDO3000

(b) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #2: Digital Decoding and Triggering for Analog Analysis

(c) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #3: Trace Persist and Analog Triggering

(d) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #4: Computer Connectivity and Remote Control

 

Some people like to say that technical aptitude in the digital domain is a sufficient condition for understanding electronics based on the direction of the exciting technology that exists. As an analog engineer and educator, I can't say that I agree with that. However I do concede that at least a working knowledge of digital technique has become a necessary condition in working with electronics. Building the most beautiful analog circuit has much less relevancy if it can't connect with an iPhone. Sorry, Widlar.

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I took this reality as a guide when looking beyond my 70% test for my review series of the Tek MDO3104 . Digital buses are a big part of my demo board life. I recently evaluated a temperature and pressure sensor that output directly to I2C. In order to see how accurate the sensor was, I needed some microcontroller code to get the data out.

 

Uh-oh.

 

This is exactly the type of situation that leads to 'Blame Badminton' between digital and analog engineers. One engineer presents data to knock the 'shuttlecock blame bomb' over the net to the other engineer's territory, which is similarly returned, continuing as a verbose volley until the real problem is found. What if the code is sending the wrong bits? What if the parasitic RC of the circuit is causing a questionable datastream?

 

In my video review below, I look at analyzing the system with both my Tek TDS2024B and the new Tek MDO3104. How does the mixed-domain performance do? Would I prefer to just have my old analog-domain scope instead of the fancy digital analysis offered by the MDO?

 

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The results showed that the MDO absolutely killed it in this use case, which is good since I'm pretty sure Tek was considering this exact scenario when designing the MDO series. I was impressed with how well it could handle both analog and digital domains at the same time. The search function, which seemed like a total gimmick, turned out to be immensely helpful when trying to zero in on a collection of instances within one trigger event. The TDS on the other hand did a great job only of looking at the analog signal, and only as much as the memory depth allowed. I'm pretty good at setting up a solid trigger condition, but having gobs of memory depth is so much more elegant when trying to find one specific instance. I would have had to set up a logic analyzer with an external trigger to get the same information that the MDO offered in a few minutes and requiring no additional connections.

 

To sum it up, I wouldn't say I'm disappointed in my trusty TDS scope, but the extra functionality offered by the MDO certainly saved some time here. While a new MDO scope isn't cheap, this is one feature that makes spending the money and pulling the trigger now on a scope upgrade is worth it.

Dave Young of Young Circuit Designs is publishing a series of articles and videos on element14 every other week to describe his experience in upgrading from his trusty Tektronix TDS2024B to a new Tektronix MDO3104. See his other articles in the series:

(a) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #1: The 70% Test with a Tek MDO3000

(b) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #2: Digital Decoding and Triggering for Analog Analysis

(c) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #3: Trace Persist and Analog Triggering

(d) Tek MDO3104 Scope Upgrade Series #4: Computer Connectivity and Remote Control

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    DAB over 10 years ago in reply to DaveYoung

    Hi Dave,

     

    So far I have just run the demo and done some basic checks.

    I will do a more complete assessment when I get my workbench back up.

     

    DAB

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    vsluiter over 10 years ago

    For work I just purchased an Agilent MSOX3034, also mixed signal. One of the major drawbacks of scopes is that the software features all cost money, but now Agilent / Keysight had a promotion that all options could be bought for the price of a single one. That blew the competition away image Now I've got all communication protocols, mask testing, statistics, very versatile triggering and some options I'll never use...

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  • DaveYoung
    DaveYoung over 10 years ago in reply to DAB

    Thanks for the comment DAB. Do you know if the pico scope can handle controls like triggering and search functions based on the bus data? That's be pretty amazing in a low cost scope.

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    DAB over 10 years ago

    Great post Dave.

     

    I have been trying to catch all of these new scope blogs.

    The new multi signal scopes are just amazing compared to what I had to work with in my day.

    One thing I did like was the serial bus decoding capability.

    To reduce cost, I found that the basic Pico scope unit can do a reasonable job for a very low price.

     

    If you are doing this stuff everyday, then I agree that a scope like this is well worth the cost.

     

    DAB

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