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goal for 2023: use a conical solder tip and enjoy it

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps over 2 years ago

You have to challenge your habits. I have always soldered with chisel and sloped/bevel round tips.
Many irons come with a conical tip. A lot of people solder happily with it.

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I have several, to use with an iron that I like. But I don't like soldering with the conical tips. I am not good at it.
That's going to change this year. I'm going to try and always use these tips when appropriate, and learn to love them.
The real goal is to become better at soldering with the conical versions than I am now with chisel and sloped types. And to enjoy the adaption path.

I'll keep you posted.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel +5
    Hehe at least you got a choice : ) I didn't know of any other styles growing up, other than bevel. All the instructions taught everyone to use this style of tip: This is from the children's Ladybird…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago +4
    Maybe they are good on QFN. They look like they could be usable to drag the tip right into the corner when manually soldering QFN. I'm the same, no good with conical. Although the very finest/pointiest…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago +4
    I've used my conical so much that it's "turned" into a chisel :). My technique hasn't changed much really ... but I do prefer conical for the potential for fine-pitch touch-ups. Not as nice for transferring…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago

    Maybe they are good on QFN. They look like they could be usable to drag the tip right into the corner when manually soldering QFN.

    I'm the same, no good with conical.

    Although the very finest/pointiest ones are the only tips that can reach into some SMA end launch connectors too.

    Reference diagram in case anyone is unclear on the terminology:

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago

    I'm such a newbie at this that I didn't know the difference Laughing

    Given that you and shabaz  both talk about not being good with conical, I think I should probably switch to the chisel tip!
    To be honest, I don't even know what tip is on there right now Grinning... but I think it's a small conical I put on there for some fine detail soldering I was doing a while back.

    Do you have a recommendation for "easiest to use" tip? 

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 2 years ago

    I've used my conical so much that it's "turned" into a chisel :).

    My technique hasn't changed much really ... but I do prefer conical for the potential for fine-pitch touch-ups. Not as nice for transferring a lot of heat to large thick wires or terminals, though.

    - Gough

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  • genebren
    genebren over 2 years ago

    My go to tip is the chisel (a very fine chisel that almost looks conical, only 1mm flat tip).  I too am no good with the conical.  Who would think that a 1mm flat could make that much difference?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to ntewinkel

    Hi Nico!

    I reckon part of it is whatever we grew up with, ends up being the one we are most comfortable with. In the UK, most of the soldering irons available to consumers were manufactured by Antex, and they always came with the bevel (sloped) tip, and that's the shape I still use 99% of the time. Antex nowadays focuses on soldering irons for craft work I think - they didn't evolve their irons/tips much.

    The tip I use most often has the dimensions below, i.e. 1mm tip, for most through-hole work and also SMD work. I should increase the size for through-hole work, but the modern soldering irons are so good at supplying power when needed, that I usually don't swap to a larger tip, except when soldering large connectors.

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 2 years ago in reply to genebren

    I didn't realize there was a difference - I just thought it was my lack of the required mad skilz... still not ruling that out though ;) 

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to genebren

    Looks like we use very similar-ish tips : ) My favorite is 1 mm too, but bevel (which is probably not too different in feel to the chisel).

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  • genebren
    genebren over 2 years ago in reply to genebren

    I think that Gough Lui stated the obvious issue that I have run into, poor heat transfer.  The rounded tip and sides of the cone, make it really difficult to get enough heat into the traces and component leads to get the solder to flow.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to genebren

    That's what I use too most of the times.

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 2 years ago in reply to genebren

    NASA has released their solder practice education videos for staff and contractors, and they demand the use of conical tips.

    Conical also allows for decent heat transfer, if you position the tip to match the area you want to heat.

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