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HELP: How to link multiply transmitter to one receiver

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Former Member over 15 years ago

Hi all, I would like to ask how can i link seven Transmitter to one receiver. I am using QFM-TX1-433 as my transmitter and QFM-RX1-433 as my receiver and also RF803E for the rf encoder, RF803D for the rf decoder. Currently I am able to link one transmitter to the receiver individually. It works perfectly when i operate one transmitter at one time, but when i operate more than one transmitter, the receiver can only able to detect one transmitter at most. I am just sending one digital signal. I had used the same input for the encoder but configured differently at the output of the decoder for every encoder. I would like ask is it I had used the wrong rf transmitter and receiver, or I had done wrong in the connection. The circuit is about the same as the one in the datasheet, just that I did not include the serial port, I just used all the outputs from the decoder. Thanks alots in advance.

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    Hi

     

    IMHO you will have to time multiplex them (i,e only onw switched on at a time) , they will not work together at the same time.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member
    So, it mean that I cannot operate all at the same time? I only want them to be detectable by the receiver when all transmitter is on, because currently my receiver can only detect one particular transmitter and the rest is not detectable at all when they are on at the same time. I will only press one switch at a time, as for the receiver, because I just want it to detect which transmitter is being triggered. I am using one switch for one transmitter.
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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    If the transmitter sends only when the button is pressed and two buttons are not pressed at the same time, it should work without any gimmicks.

     

    If there is a chance that two buttons are pressed at the same time the transmitter would have to be timed individually to not send at the same "time-slot".

     

     

     

    Elias

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member
    I only press one switch at a time, but the receiver can only detect a particular transmitter and the other just not able to be detect. Is it because i had use wrong component?
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    0 Chris_Pinter over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hello,

     

    This is a normal part of designing radio systems.  Most if not all radio systems have to deal with multiply transmitters. If you are having problems sending a signal from one transmitter to the receiver while the other six units are turned on it is likely that the transmitters are transmitting beckon packets without your knowledge.

     

    You will need to look at the firmware of the transmitter and receiver and develop a method of synchronizing the transmitters so they do not step on each other. Instead of developing the firmware yourself you might be able to get some help from the manufacturer of the radio modules.  They might have provided a patch or a method of synchronizing the transmitters within the development firmware.   I would give them a call first.

     

    If you need help with firmware design I would suggest you consider a simple multiplexing algorithm that incorporates Aloha protocol.  This will solve the next problem you will face, which is an increase in packet errors due to heavy traffic on the channel.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Chris

     

    http://www.pinterec.ca/services/wireless-development

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Are you using the Encoder/Decoder ICs in between already or have you tried directly from transmitter to receiver?

     

    If you have the encoders and decoders in between have you successfully "learned" all the unique serials of the encoders?

     

     

    Elias

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member
    I had RF803E for the encoder and RF803D for the decoder. I had also successfully "learned" all the unique serials of the encoders to the receiver individually. but I just not able to send a signal from one transmitter to the receiver while the other six transmitter are turned on.
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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    It does then sound like they are transmitting at least something like beacons, like Chris mentioned.

     

    Without having more details about the RF module I can't tell too much about it.

     

    Maybe you need to hook the enable pin of the transmitter to the buttons also to have the module disabled if no button is pressed.

     

     

    Elias

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Thank Elias and Chirs. I think i got the answer. I will try it (= Thank alot guys, you all are really did a great help to me.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    No problem, glad to be able to help image

     

     

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