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Soldering Nickel Plated Copper

scottiebabe
scottiebabe over 3 years ago

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 3 years ago +4
    There's a trick to deal with this type of wires: preheat the join with the iron, usual temperature put solder on the wire, near the landing pad and close to where the iron touches it. let that…
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to scottiebabe +4
    Sounds like the nickel plated kind. They really don't behave like normal stranded wire. You have to lure the solder in like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.
  • rsjawale24
    rsjawale24 over 3 years ago +4
    I think the large copper plane is also taking up the heat from the soldering iron. Just a small copper pad and a higher temperature may help. I would have tried scraping off the nickle from the wire before…
  • Jan Cumps
    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago

    There's a trick to deal with this type of wires:

    • preheat the join with the iron, usual temperature
    • put solder on the wire, near the landing pad and close to where the iron touches it.
    • let that solder transfer more heat, more efficiently
    • then put solder on the other side of the wire, also close to the pad. The solder sucks itself towards the iron, and that creates a wet join

    This works easiest in a through-hole setting, but the capillary action also works in your setting.
    When the mounting pad is as big as your example, a preheater can help, so that the little poor iron doesn't have to do all that heating by itself.

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    0 scottiebabe over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

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    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    Sounds like the nickel plated kind. They really don't behave like normal stranded wire. You have to lure the solder in like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.

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    0 scottiebabe over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

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    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    extreme off topic: Hameln isn't crazy far from here.

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    I drove half the distance a weekend ago (also to Germany, but a bit more south) to go watch volcanos and the Moesel and Rhine river with my <3. And served in the army not too far from there in cold war times.

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    0 rsjawale24 over 3 years ago

    I think the large copper plane is also taking up the heat from the soldering iron.
    Just a small copper pad and a higher temperature may help.  I would have tried scraping off the nickle from the wire before soldering. But the thermistor wires are too thin for that.

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    0 scottiebabe over 3 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

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    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    We now know Canada's nuclear code. Cold War PostIt
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    0 Jan Cumps over 3 years ago in reply to rsjawale24

    In scottiebabe's case, where a large copper plain is required, a preheater can do wonders.
    When you use that, say to 120° C, the soldering iron has approx. 100° less to bridge.

    A preheater makes life easier in general. And the value increases when you deal with large copper planes and lead-free.
    If the PCB is traditional, thin trace only, then a preheater doesn't add. Other situations - be it with iron or air gun - it's a step up in solder comfort.

    Additional win: it reduces the time you have to heat up components. For hybrid ICs that have an internal PCB  (like the TI LM5XXX GaN FET), this can be the difference between success and failure. Hot-airing these too long will desolder internal connections in that type of IC.

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    0 ntewinkel over 3 years ago

    Oh haha, I just noticed your post now, AFTER soldering them all... and yes I did run into some oddities. I found it was not too bad though, when I used my older paste type flux instead of the newer "no-clean" flux-pen. Maybe the older type of flux has a bit more bite to it Smiley

    I was also just soldering to thin wires, so I guess it all got hot more quickly.

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