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Seeking Feedback on Kit for Upcoming Experimenting with Extreme Environments

rscasny
rscasny over 1 year ago

At least once a year, I try to do some activity along the lines of protecting electronics. In 2023, I launched Experimenting with Waterproof Connectors. In late 2021, we launched the Just Encase Design Challenge. As more electronics are employed outdoors and more IOT solutions are installed in remote locations in the open environment, the need to protect electronics is increasing.

In the challenge I am now planning, I hope to take the idea of "electronics environmental protection" to the extremes.

In brief, the challengers will be given a kit to build something -- anything. They will house their electronic-builds in a durable, IP65-67 enclosure. After doing those the things, the real fun begins.

We would like the participants to experiment with extreme environments such as hot & cold temperatures, light & strong water sprays, vibrations, dust "storms," etc. You get the idea. They will need to design a testing environment to simulate the extreme condition being tested and then put their protected-build in it. And write about it.

Feedback on Proposed Kit

For the remainder of this discussion, I will overview selections for the kit. I have three options each for:

  • Electronics
  • Enclosure
  • Display
  • Sensor Connector

Please vote for your preference of each kit component. Now, if you have an alternate suggestion, feel free to post a comment.

I would like the electronic-builds to be battery-powered since a lot of remote monitoring is battery powered. Take a look at the viability of that. If that doesn't work, I may then give special extra credit to those participants that have a battery-powered experiment. At this point, I am in the planning stage. Not everything is cast in stone, so to speak.

Of course, there other parts such as cables, other types of connectors, power supplies, sensors, etc. that I have not included in this preliminary kit. Go ahead and post a comment on the accessories you would like.

Thanks for participating in this discussion.

Here are the polls:

ELECTRONICS under consideration

MICROCHIP EV36W50A WFI32-IOT Board, 32bit, PIC

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Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Lite and I/O Board

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ARDUINO AKX00034 EDGE CONTROL BOARD

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Display under consideration

ADAFRUIT 2260 TFT Display

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MIDAS MC42005A6W-SPTLYI-V2 DISPLAY, ALPHANUMERIC, 20X4

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MIKROE-55 Display, Character LCD 2x16

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ENCLOSURES under consideration

HAMMOND 1554VA2GYCL, Plastic Enclosure, IP68

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HAMMOND 1590Z231GY Metal Enclosure, Small, Diecast Aluminum, IP68

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HAMMOND 1555HF17GY Plastic Enclosure, Watertight, Industrial, IP67

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SENSOR CONNECTOR under consideration

AMPHENOL MRDBG02L13000, Circular Connector, 2 Contacts

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AMPHENOL MRDBG03L13000, Circular Connector, 3 Contacts

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AMPHENOL MRD-BG04-L13-000, Circular Connector, 4 Contacts

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 1 year ago +4
    Hi All. Thanks for the feedback. At this point, here is what I am considering for the final version of the kit. Some of the choices are based on inventory and availability. Take a look. I open flexible…
  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago +2
    My 2 cents... Great MCU modules, but for me the edge goes to Arduino because it is easier to interface. The displays are good to -20 but for me the edge goes to the Midas - I think it will be more…
  • robogary
    robogary over 1 year ago +2
    I got a smirk to myself when I saw the Arduino Edge could run 34 months on a 5Ahr battery :-) Good for apps on Mars, but not on Jupiter. Actually the Arduino got my attention because of the low sleep…
  • rscasny
    rscasny over 1 year ago

    It looks like I'll need to add an antenna connector. I do want to include a display, something we have not done before in similar projects in the past. Next, I have to get with my product manager and look at the kit budget. Thanks for the suggestions.

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 1 year ago

    I used the Pi4CM + I/O Board instead of the standard Pi4ModB because of inventory level and the fact that we have not used the PiCM for any programs yet. 

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  • JWx
    JWx over 1 year ago

    I wonder if there would be a possibility for some time extension in this project? For example, my tests are quite time-consuming so some additional time could bring more decisive results...

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  • JWx
    JWx over 1 year ago

    another observation - after quick check, WFI32-IoT (nor probably Ardunio) doesn't seem to have external antenna connector, so radio cannot be used when placed in  metal case, leaving Raspberry that has "Either the onboard antenna or an external antenna kit [...]" according to the datasheet...

    Will need to check if base board provides some antenna connector

    As an alternative, 1554 with pressure compensation plug could also be interesting - like this (IP66)

     https://www.hammfg.com/part/BDN4XN1?referer=448

    or third party when better IP rating is to be obtained.

    This way, some comparison can be done if someone who participated with the previous challenge would be selected in this one.

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 1 year ago in reply to JWx

    This particular project is launching in the last week of January. 

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  • embeddedguy
    embeddedguy over 1 year ago

    All the mentioned device are great for smart enclosure, I voted for RPI compute module but I also like other two modules. Specifically RPI compute modules can be good for industrial setting, where power and ethernet can be used with PoE hat.. Networking related projects can be done fast in this case. Otherwise for normal wireless IoT projects other two modules are great. Great to see Arduino board that has many connectivity options....!!....I am yet to experiment with tight waterproof enclosures. Never got my hands on it...yet

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  • obones
    obones over 1 year ago in reply to rscasny

    Ah so that leaves the "super hot weather" part of my test idea which was a floating device inside the water tank to report water level and temperature

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 1 year ago

    Very cool.  How did I miss this one?  Joy  Liking the Pi because my idea for an application already runs on the Pi and I can concentrate on the enclosure stuff.  Should be VERY interesting.

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  • JWx
    JWx over 1 year ago

    and about display - maybe some e-Ink display would be interesting? There are versions with extended temperature range and power consumption would be great for battery operated systems...

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 1 year ago in reply to JWx

     JWx I LIKE IT!  Great suggestion.  Does e-Ink work in extreme cold/hot?  Man!  Now I gotta charge up my Adafruit MagTag and see.  It's not exactly "extreme" right now, but the MagTag is not doing anything useful at the moment anyway.

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