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3-axis (or 4?) camera gimbal

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Former Member over 9 years ago

Yes, this is somewhat of a re-post from something I posted over a year and a half ago, but I think it got lost in the shuffle (more likely posted in the wrong place), and now that the BHS now has a social media ninja, I figured it'd less likely get lost (and more likely I'd be informed of just why this idea had no responses previously).

 

In the last year, there's a been a handful of handheld 3-axis gimbals hit the market such as Feiyu's G4 Series; there was even a kickstarter version (that was probably just an importer).  These really don't seem all that uniquely difficult, especially for someone who has access to a CNC machine, laser cutter, and multiple 3D printers.  3 motors, an accelerometer or two, some sort of processor (not sure how involved it is, I'm assuming a simple microcontroller can handle everything),  power, and the housing to hold it all.

 

Some things to think about:

Single handed use

Try to make the loading of the recording device single handed as well?

Maybe some simple controls for Bluetooth or USB connections to phone (additional app required?) for starting/stopping recording

All the commercial devices are for either GoPro and/or smart phones; is this for marketing reasons or because a 300 gram cheap (ish) handheld camcorder weighs too much for the motors that are used in these devices?  Can we make the mounting generic enough to handle a GoPro, Smartphone, or a Camcorder?

Depending on how big this thing is going to be, should/could there be any consideration for moving on the 3 axes (as opposed to simply rotating on the axes), even if only a couple inches.  Normally this is achieved with the mounting harness for an M56 Smart Gun, a.k.a. a steadicam vest.

All the various modes: no yaw compensation, eased yaw compensation, and total yaw compensation (the camera totally fixed on a point).

Maybe include some degree of Soloshot type tracking abilities, though using a maybe a simple IR emitter/receivers?

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    makerkaren over 9 years ago

    Which recording device would you want this to be created for ideally?

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    Former Member over 9 years ago in reply to makerkaren

    Well, depending on if the motors for such a device can handle the weight, I would think the most generic holder possible to allow for the most devices.  Again, using Feiyu's gimbal as an example, their G4 is designed specifically for the GoPro Hero4; it's a U shaped bolt essentially that's the exact dimensions of the GoPro (although it appears they've made a different version with an adjustable U bolt).  But they also have a version that's just a pinching device that is marketed towards iPhones and "other similarly shaped devices".  But if you could make a pinching style grip from the sides, as opposed to the top and bottoms, or possibly a grip that uses adjustable straps to fit whatever shaped devices, or even a swap-able grip so you grip whatever device you have and just lock the grip into the gimbal, I don't see any reason why you couldn't put in a less-than-$200 camcorder.  I would think the only restriction should be the weight in relation to what the motors can handle.

     

    Enrico, what was the fourth axis you were thinking of?  I guess technically there are only three axes and three planes, but the Playstation 3 called their controller the 6-axis because it could sense movement on the planes as well as the axes?  I would think if you if wanted to add other axes/planes, it would significantly increase the size of the unit because you'd have to make room to move the camera (and probably the axis motors too?) up/down, left/right, forward/backward; and I would think that would be just more of an easing type of movement.  But if you're building more of a filming rig, as opposed to just a handheld fun thing, I think it's do-able.

     

    What motors are you using?  What type of processor are you using; just a simple micro-controller, or something more beefy?

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    Former Member over 9 years ago in reply to makerkaren

    Well, depending on if the motors for such a device can handle the weight, I would think the most generic holder possible to allow for the most devices.  Again, using Feiyu's gimbal as an example, their G4 is designed specifically for the GoPro Hero4; it's a U shaped bolt essentially that's the exact dimensions of the GoPro (although it appears they've made a different version with an adjustable U bolt).  But they also have a version that's just a pinching device that is marketed towards iPhones and "other similarly shaped devices".  But if you could make a pinching style grip from the sides, as opposed to the top and bottoms, or possibly a grip that uses adjustable straps to fit whatever shaped devices, or even a swap-able grip so you grip whatever device you have and just lock the grip into the gimbal, I don't see any reason why you couldn't put in a less-than-$200 camcorder.  I would think the only restriction should be the weight in relation to what the motors can handle.

     

    Enrico, what was the fourth axis you were thinking of?  I guess technically there are only three axes and three planes, but the Playstation 3 called their controller the 6-axis because it could sense movement on the planes as well as the axes?  I would think if you if wanted to add other axes/planes, it would significantly increase the size of the unit because you'd have to make room to move the camera (and probably the axis motors too?) up/down, left/right, forward/backward; and I would think that would be just more of an easing type of movement.  But if you're building more of a filming rig, as opposed to just a handheld fun thing, I think it's do-able.

     

    What motors are you using?  What type of processor are you using; just a simple micro-controller, or something more beefy?

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