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Telephone Rotary Dial relay control

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Former Member over 11 years ago

Hey Ben,

 

I'm new here to Element14.com and just made an account.  I came here by watching your videos and thought that I would check it out.  I have a challange for you.  I was wondering if there is some way to make an old telephone rotary dial activate 10 different relays.  Let me explain:

 

If for instance I dial a 2 on the rotary dial, it will activate relay two, dial a three and activates relay three, and so on.  I would need this to pulse the respective relay (turn the relay on for about 250ms then shut it off)  I know this is a bit obscure, but there is a method to my madness lol image

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    You could check out this one. https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/51 I think there was a kit at one stage Mark
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    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    That must have looked very "James Bond"! :-) more 'Get Smart' If you want to see a really big dial, check out this one. http://www.thecoralsnake.com/History22 This one is in NZ now (less the dial). Had…
  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    All outputs will ripple through one-by-one, so that may be undesirable for some scenarios Simply inhibit the voltage that drives the relay until until after x and problem gone. When you want the 'relay…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 11 years ago

    This type of thing could be implemented with logic gates, but perhaps a quick way is to obtain an Arduino and connect it to the contacts on the rear of the rotary dialer, and count pulses (which begin to occur after you release the dial at a position). Use interrupts, possibly. Also you'll need to do a debounce, which is explained on the arduino.cc pages.

    There is a nice video about three-quarters of the way down the wikipedia page on rotary dialers which shows the electrical connection.

    If you wanted the action to occur once you've reached a position, then there are some other methods but would require some sensor or potentiometer or other method of interfacing to the dial, i.e. some mechanical work.

    All this assumes the telephone is not connected to the phone network. If it is connected, then the pulses could be detected from the phone line but is likely prohibited in most countries.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    You could check out this one.

    https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/51

     

    I think there was a kit at one stage

     

    Mark

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 11 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Good link, very nice clear photos. I actually have some very old telephones but I don't have the heart to touch the insides, I think they were designed with such care to last a long time that I'd rather not do any modifications.. But sadly a bit unusable these days with such long phone numbers it can take a minute to dial someone ; )

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Shabaz

    You might be able to find the touch tone versions.

    Here in NZ they removed the rotary and fitted a keypad ...they were modern (well back in the day)

     

    With some careful planning, I'm sure there is room for an arduino and a GSM and maybe a small cell battery and not destroy anything.

    I was really tempted to build one.

     

    Back in the days when I worked for NZ Post (now Telecom) we had a radio unit that replaced phone lines.

    With the base unit up on the local hills, it made a great mobile phone, long before they were here in NZ.

    The funniest look was one of the guys in a Humber Super Snipe having the full size phone on the dash ring and him talking on it while at the traffic lights.

     

    This was even before a paging service in the late 70's.

     

    Mark

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 11 years ago in reply to mcb1

    That must have looked very "James Bond"! :-) . Yes some electronics could be squeezed in without destruction.. just thinking, a bluetooth conversion would be quite neat too - there are some very nice-looking touch-tone phones.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    That must have looked very "James Bond"! :-)

    more 'Get Smart'

     

    If you want to see a really big dial, check out this one.

    http://www.thecoralsnake.com/History22

    This one is in NZ now (less the dial).

    Had it at home to do some electronics repair .... it can go.

     

    just thinking, a bluetooth conversion would be quite neat too

    That kind of misses the point about using the large old fashioned handset, and having people look reaaalllllyyy strangely at you.

     

     

    Mark

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 11 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Hehe interesting dial : ) I never saw the series. What a fine restoration. It looks amazing!

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Wow, thanks for all your replies image

     

    I have some dials laying around because I restore these old telephones and wanted to make something cool with the remaining dials.  I have restored a few of them to factory standards.  I already understand how the dials work, lol.

    I was wanting to use one as "let's say" a keypad or something.  Making it to where it can toggle the respective relay for the number dialed makes this a universal device I can impliment into any project I need.

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    Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Wow, that is pretty cool.  I've never seen that series either, but it looks awsome lol.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I have restored a few of them to factory standards.

    Nice.

    If you had a device to count the pulses, then you would know what 'number' has been dialled.

    Then use that to control the appropriate relay.

    If you use a litle hardware, you can reduce the outputs required, and drive the relays at the same time.

     

    Interesting concept ... dial a number to rurn on a relay.

     

    Cheers

    Mark

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