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Pripyat - DIY Geiger Counter -- Episode 352

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Matthew goes atomic punk in this video where he takes some old Soviet surplus Geiger-Muller tubes and builds his own recreation of a Civil Defense-style Geiger counter. The CDV-700 series survey meters were developed in coordination with the US government at the height of the Cold War for deployment to local Civil Defense authorities. With a few off-the-shelf parts, Matthew builds a high-voltage circuit to power the GM tube and uses an Arduino Nano to process the output signal, driving the characteristic click and dancing analog meter, then encloses it in a custom 3D-printed case completing the homage to this mid-20th century piece of vintage tech!

 

 

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Matt Eargle is a cold war nut who loves historical technologies. He just happens to have some old Soviet surplus Geiger tube sitting around.   He’ll use it to build his own take on a Geiger counter.  It will be something like an updated CDV 700 series. The original CDV-700 Series models were in production from 1954 until 1974.  Later XXX series models were produced well into the 1980s. In order to build a homebrew version of a Geiger counter, he’ll need a couple of components in addition to his Geiger tube.  A Geiger tube has a sealed vial inside a sealed glass tube containing an inert gas. You take that and apply a really high potential, the one he’s using is about 400 volts. When your particle comes in and strikes the nucleus of the gas inside, it temporarily ionizes that gas, just enough to allow some of that voltage through that it can be measured.

 

He’ll need a high voltage source to feed his tube.  The cathode of the tube will run into an Arduino.  Running the high voltage source through batteries will require a transformer.  The transformer will require an AC current.  The easiest way to create an AC current would be to create a little oscillator with 555 timers and run that into an inductor.  The 555 timer will set up in astable mode to produce an alternating signal at 60 Hz that will get amplified by a MOSFET before running into the transformer. The current from the transformer will go into a diode laddering system which will drive the GM tube.  The signal from the Geiger tube will run into an NPN transistor.  The output pulse of the tube is around 200V, so it needs to have some level of conditioning before it can be counted by the Arduino. Once the output is run into ground they’ll have a digital signal that they can feed back into the Arduino.

 

He tests the circuit in a breadboard to make sure it works.  The output of the Geiger tube is hooked into an oscilloscope.  Matt uses an old aircraft instrument, an ADF with a glow in-the-dark radium dial to test to ensure that a signal is outputted to the scope.  Now that we know the signal is working, we can condition that signal to create a digital pulse that we can measure and count with the Arduino.  The tube output runs through a voltage divider so that it doesn’t fry the transistor.  All that’s left is to 3D print some parts and do some coding using the Arduino IDE.

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  • davegsm82
    davegsm82 over 7 years ago +4
    Loved the video, I work in Radiotherapy so work with Man-Made radiation, but have also been to Pripyat/Chernobyl etc. I've designed and built my own Geiger counter, which I've called the DMGC-02. Been…
  • davegsm82
    davegsm82 over 7 years ago in reply to airbornesurfer +4
    No worries, I'm quite happy to tell all about my time in Kiev/Pripyat/Chernobyl so please ask away, either here or in PM's, I'm sure others would be interested too! I'm actually in the UK, but there's…
  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 7 years ago +3
    An interesting video, thank you. After watching this I wondered if it was feasible to make the Geiger-Müller tube at home as well. In the past I managed to pull a really good vacuum with a homemade pump…
  • developer27
    developer27 over 6 years ago

    Hi, i was checking out the prices of the parts above and seems that something is wrong with your system. The prices are 10x normal price, and one item is the wrong part all together. Who would ever pay $20.30 for an Arduino Nano?

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  • DAB
    DAB over 6 years ago in reply to trimix

    Hi Kirby,

     

    This is an old post and we never did see a schematic.

    Check the web, there are a lot of these devices out there now and I know several open source schematics that you could build.

     

    DAB

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  • trimix
    trimix over 6 years ago

    So where do I find a schematic diagram? I think I can figure it out from what you have told me, but I joined elemit14 just to get my hands on the project notes for this device. I don't see them. What gives?

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  • airbornesurfer
    airbornesurfer over 7 years ago in reply to DAB

    You could also be like the Radioactive Boy Scout and use those Americium cores to build a breeder reactor!

     

    No...Seriously, don't do that.

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    DAB over 7 years ago

    Don't forget, you can use a smoke detector to test your Geiger counter.

     

    At least one that uses a radioactive source to ionize the air.

     

    DAB

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  • airbornesurfer
    airbornesurfer over 7 years ago in reply to davegsm82

    I'm based in Orange County, CA, yeah. The Desert Dogs go all over the SoCal and Nevada area. Send me a message if you're interested and I'll point you to the right person!

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  • davegsm82
    davegsm82 over 7 years ago in reply to airbornesurfer

    Hey Matthew,

    That sounds like a cool idea! are you based near the Nevada/Cali area? I need to check our Itinerary for the trip, but I think I might be able to convince the wife to do a little prospecting!

    Cheers, Dave.

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  • airbornesurfer
    airbornesurfer over 7 years ago in reply to davegsm82

    Thanks for sharing your photos, Dave! Super rad!

     

    If you think you'll have time and be of mind to when you visit the area, I'll hook you up with the Desert Dogs (local spelunking group based at my shop)--those guys know where to find all the really cool stuff!

     

    Take care!

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  • davegsm82
    davegsm82 over 7 years ago in reply to airbornesurfer

    No worries, I'm quite happy to tell all about my time in Kiev/Pripyat/Chernobyl so please ask away, either here or in PM's, I'm sure others would be interested too! I'm actually in the UK, but there's loads of places in the USA that I'd love to visit. This counter has been to the states with me before and I've GPS Mapped a few areas but not found anything fun, I'd love to visit and do some mineral hunting for Uranium ore etc. I'm visiting San-Fran and Vegas, in a month or so, I really want to take a car out to some of the old mines and have a dig in the spoil heaps!

    I get what you mean about just getting something working, I've been there before. It look me long enough just to get the LCD display working on my project, then it skyrocketed from there.

    Re: the Woodpecker, or 'Duga' as it's known, yea I visited there on my trip, it was actually half of the reason for my visit, I really wanted to see the structure as there's some mutterings that it may be sold for scrap and torn down in the coming years. That probably won't happen for a while but be aware that it's possible as that area isn't really contaminated at all, despite it's proximity to the CNPP.

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    I made a huge album on Imgur with my photo's in it, if anyone would like a look through.

    https://imgur.com/a/4hvGU

    All the best, Dave.

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  • airbornesurfer
    airbornesurfer over 7 years ago in reply to davegsm82

    That's awesome, dude! I'd love to chat about it sometime! That's part of why I used the Arduino: I figured that I could always add more features in the future if I ever wanted to revisit it. Admitted, by the end of the project, I was just glad to have something that worked, lol! One of these days I'll get over to Pripyat and take a tour (I also want to see the "Russian Woodpecker" that's located nearby) as I enjoy those weird quirks of geography--I also want to visit Centralia, PA, and the Northwest Angle, MN, to name but a couple of those spots!

     

    Thanks for watching!

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