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Author: dubbie
Date Created: 11 Mar 2019 12:52 PM
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One String Electric guitar #1 : Getting Started

dubbie
dubbie
11 Mar 2019

I saw the Project14 monthly topic of Electromagnetism and thought about it for a bit and couldn't think of anything that I could do - there didn't seem anyway of involving mobile robots in this, so I had decided not to participate. Some time later it occurred to me that maybe I could make some sort of electric guitar. I am no musician but I can just about plink out Doh-a-deer, a female deer on the piano with one finger. I can just about do the same on a guitar so I thought maybe I could make a one stringed electric guitar. After all, it is mostly just a magnetic pickup.

 

Amazingly, you can actually get one string guitar music ( https://1-string.com/abba-mamma-mia/  ) - I thought I might just about be able to play Mama Mia on one string.

 

I already had some magnets that I thought might be suitable as they are cylindrical. Also amazingly, Farnell still sell them, which surprised me as I purchased them many years ago. I'm not sure what sort of magnetic strength you need for electric guitar pickups (or - to be honest - whether they actually use magnets or electromagnets) so hopefully these will be OK.

 

 

As this project is not that complicated (hopefully) I thought I might try and make some sort of finished product, so a shaped and painted guitar shaped thing. As I don't want to spend any money unless I have to I will try and use whatever wood I have. I do have some pieces of pallet but I'm not sure they are long enough or strong. How long should a guitar be? I do have some other pine planks so I might glue two of those together. I'm not aiming for a long life so I'm not going to worry about the wood bending under the strain of the string. If I can get hold of a proper guitar string winding thingy I might use it, otherwise I'll just use some sort of screw hook. I might try it fretless to start with as I know that you can get fretless guitars - bass guitars anyway, but if frets seem to be needed I might try wire cost hangers cut to size. After all, it is only one string. Fret wire doesn't seem to be expensive but why pay if it can be avoided. Guitarists always seem to be breaking strings so hopefully I can get an old one from somewhere. I  wonder if a particular thickness might give a better result - if only I knew what that might be?

 

I think a 3D printed coil holder with a centre hole the same diameter as the magnet should be easy to create which will then only need a hole drilled through the body of the guitar so it will fit into it. I'll have to think about how to wind a good coil so I might need to make a coil winder of some type, or maybe just do it very carefully by hand. I'll also have to decide what thickness of wire to use as I probably will have to purchase that. I wonder how many turns are needed?

 

I do not have a guitar amplifier, although I know where I can borrow one, so I might try that approach, but I do have a left over amplifier box for plugging an old iPhone into (now defunct) which has an Aux input and I use this for boosting my laptop sound for playing music when working in the garage. So if I get the guitar working I might then think about putting a pre-amplifier inside the body of the guitar and just plugging it straight into the Aux input of the music amplifier. All I know about a guitar pre-amp is that the input impedance is very low as it is just a coil on the input so it is more of an impedance transformer than a signal amplifier - or maybe it is more than this. I tried Googling guitar pre-amplifiers but all that comes up is a foot pedal - no actual circuits. I even tried looking for guitar pre-amplifier kits and couldn't find any of those either.

 

Dubbie

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  • jw0752
    jw0752 over 3 years ago +6

    Hi

    It sounds like a great project. I look forward to hearing your results.

     

    John

  • genebren
    genebren over 3 years ago +6

    Dubbie,

     

    Good luck on your new project.  It will be interesting to see where this goes.

     

    Gene

  • dubbie
    dubbie over 3 years ago in reply to jw0752 +5

    John,

     

    It seems like one of those things where you do not know if it will work until you do it. I think it will work. For my sons 18th Birthday I (with the help of a musician friend) purchased all the parts…

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  • kiri-ll
    kiri-ll over 3 years ago

    I was seeing a pickup as an indivisible particle, and trying to assemble it from parts sound insane. That's why I like your idea to actually do this

     

    Interesting that you pay so much attention to the guitar case at the first place. For me, assembling the pickup electric part looks like the biggest challenge. But looks like you are experienced enough with this part, that's it is not a problem for you.

     

    I see that there are updates in this blog already, so I will go and see how the project worked out

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    dubbie over 3 years ago in reply to kiri-ll

    Kiri,

     

    It is quite possible that the pickup is the most important part, but not being any sort of musician or even musical, it all sounds pretty much the same to me, so I cannot tell if it a pure tone or a noisy one. Well, I can detect mains hum but that's about it. I'm pretty sure that the haphazard coil winding must induce some sort of noise, but I have no idea what it is or how it could be measured. I do know that pickups are double wound (whatever that means) to eliminate some sort of noise - I'm just not sure what that noise is. I think they also use double pickups staggered across and down the guitar, but that was just too much effort to implement. As is volume and tone. (I have no idea what tone is anyway).

     

    So, that just leaves making the guitar body. I've seen the TV programmes that give the impression that it is quite difficult, but the reality is that is was quite easy. It is just a plank with a hole drilled in it for the pickup and some way of fixing the string. I want to put a pre-amp into the guitar body so that it can be played so that might need a bit of thought.

     

    As the prototype seems to be working my next step (if I decide to take it) will be to make a better guitar body with some shape and colour. It will not affect the sound as far as I know so it will just be for shown.

     

    Dubbie

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 3 years ago in reply to dubbie

    "Well, I can detect mains hum but that's about it. I'm pretty sure that the haphazard coil winding must induce some sort of noise,…"

     

    You need to wind the second coil now and turn it into a humbucker pickup

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    dubbie over 3 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Dave,

     

    I have no idea what this is, but it sounds difficult! Does it sound different or just louder?

     

    Dubbie

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    beacon_dave over 3 years ago in reply to dubbie

    "I have no idea what this is, but it sounds difficult! Does it sound different or just louder?"

     

    It's a pick-up design used to reduce the noise picked up by a single coil:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbucker

    It uses two coils with the poles and phase inverted to increase the signal and cancel out the unwanted noise.

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    dubbie over 3 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Dave,

     

    Thanks for this information, these things make a bit more sense now. However, I think I will leave making a second coil to another - one hand wound coil was enough - what's a bit of hum between friends. As long as it is loud enough no-one will hear it!

     

    Dubbie

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    dubbie over 3 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Dave,

     

    Thanks for this information, these things make a bit more sense now. However, I think I will leave making a second coil to another - one hand wound coil was enough - what's a bit of hum between friends. As long as it is loud enough no-one will hear it!

     

    Dubbie

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