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  • Date Created: 2 Dec 2018 10:12 PM Date Created
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  • photodiode
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Project PITS has moved forward since the initial prototype was seen to work.

 

Since deciding that the best place for the on / off switch was between the charger and the boost circuit, the pre-manufactured board could not be utilised. The circuit has therefore been expanded utilising a MCP73831 charger integrated circuit from Microchip and a MC34063 for On Semiconductors to build up the boost circuit to convert the 3.7V from the 18650 cell to the required 5V.

 

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This has created a much larger parts list as seen above, now giving a total parts cost of just over £75.00. The only major part missing from the cost now will be the cost of the PCB. Given the increase in components, the PCB has substantially changed but I have still managed to keep it within the case size.

 

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Rear Copper Layout

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At the front, the board has been shortened to give room for the push button and 4 way socket that will be used to make connections to both the photodiode and the injection test set.

 

I am wondering If I should have a complete cutout of the copper around the whole of the battery positive clip as appose to just around the solder pads.

 

The battery clips themselves  have been positioned on the PCB utilising measurements from a manufactured battery holder, to get the correct tension on the spring clips. A couple of concerns are surrounding the connections to the USB socket and whether or not a copper track should be run up to the negative battery clip from this. I am also wondering if I should look at fusing  from the positive battery clip to the outgoing circuit and incoming from the charger. I am just wary of the power capability within the lithium ion cells and looking to prevent potential issues in the event of faults occurring.

 

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Practically, not much has moved on. The 4 way connector and on / off switch have been mounted into the front of the case. I will need to drill holes for the LEDs and cut out for the USB connector, but this will not be done until I have a PCB to confirm the positioning.

 

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The next thing to do will be to order the required parts in and select someone to manufacture the PCB and ensure that I can generate the correct information that they require.

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  • three-phase
    three-phase over 6 years ago +4
    I have now added a single 1A poly fuse to the battery positive connection. This pretty much completes the initial circuit. Over the weekend, I hope to set up the soft latch circuit and try it with the…
  • three-phase
    three-phase over 6 years ago in reply to three-phase +3
    Found the problem for the keep out area, The 'no copper pour' option is deselected by default, so selecting that removed the copper from the area.
  • genebren
    genebren over 6 years ago +3
    Donald, The updates to your project look great. The MCP73831 is a great choice for the Li Ion charging circuit. On the boost side, you could greatly simplify your circuit by using a boost convertor with…
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  • genebren
    genebren over 6 years ago

    Donald,

     

    OK, the modified circuit does make a bit more sense now.  I am not sure that the gate voltage is a part of your problem, as you did initially turn on the MOSFET. The extremely low collector current (~7.5uA) might be keeping the Vce of Q3 from keeping the voltage on C5 low enough to turn off the Q2 (which in  turn shuts off Q1 MOSFET).  You can verify this by measuring the voltage on C5 while the MOSFET is on (the voltage should be less than 0.65V or Vbe).

     

    Looking around, I found a similar circuit might work a bit better.  Here the timing cap (C1) is low when the circuit is off and high when on.  This better much insures that you should be able to turn off.  (I am a little concerned that it might take a bit of time for the cap to discharge enough to properly turn the circuit back on)

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    Good luck!

    Gene

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    genebren over 6 years ago

    Donald,

     

    OK, the modified circuit does make a bit more sense now.  I am not sure that the gate voltage is a part of your problem, as you did initially turn on the MOSFET. The extremely low collector current (~7.5uA) might be keeping the Vce of Q3 from keeping the voltage on C5 low enough to turn off the Q2 (which in  turn shuts off Q1 MOSFET).  You can verify this by measuring the voltage on C5 while the MOSFET is on (the voltage should be less than 0.65V or Vbe).

     

    Looking around, I found a similar circuit might work a bit better.  Here the timing cap (C1) is low when the circuit is off and high when on.  This better much insures that you should be able to turn off.  (I am a little concerned that it might take a bit of time for the cap to discharge enough to properly turn the circuit back on)

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    Good luck!

    Gene

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