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  • Author Author: RobinTheMaker
  • Date Created: 14 Nov 2024 1:50 PM Date Created
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8Bit adder from discrete transistors

RobinTheMaker
RobinTheMaker
14 Nov 2024
In this project I tried to build the simplest calculater possible from discrete transistors in order to learn more about digital logic on the most basic level.

 started experimenting with single transistors on bread boards, building simple logic gates. The next step was to assemble the logic gates into a full adder. At first I used multiple different types of logic gates like in the following image.

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I made the circuit on a breadboard and even build a second one to hook together. They worked as expected although the leds on the output were quite dim. But I didn't let that stop me and pushed trough with creating a PCB and ordered it. After hours of assembling half the board with 72 out of 144 transistors and twice as many resistors, I plugged it in only to see that the adders worked on their own but the carry out voltage was to low to turn on the next transistor. 

I created a simulation of the circuit with CircuitJS which showed me, that with my current architecture there are some cases where the voltage drop across the transistors is to great to turn on the next transistor. 

After some research I found an alternate design that only uses NOR gates that are very simple to implement with a single transistor and three resistors per gate. This effectivly cut the total number of transistors in half and made the design actually work. This time I tested everything in with simulations before ordering and assembling a PCB.

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I got the PCBs and was very exited because I had never ordered ones with ENIG imersion gold finish and together with the purple it just looks amazing. This is a show piece after all and I am planning on building a nice wooden enclousure for it. 
I started the assembly progress by first soldering the USB C with some solder paste and a hot air gun and then continued on to the first full adder. After soldering 9 transistors and over 30 resistors I had enough components on the board to test basic functionality. But after flicking the switches in all possible combinations all the output led's stayed dim and unlit and the panic started creeping in.
After a quick probing session with the multimeter I turned to the schematic and board layout in KiCad to reference some things. I found the coulprit quite fast. I don't know how it happend or how I never noticed it but at some point I messed up the connection between footprint and schematic. The pin numbers didn't mach up correctly. In the schematic the base of the transistor is pin number 1. On the physical part of the BC547b transistor the base is the middle leg but on the footprint the pins are numbered from left to right making the the base the left most pin.So after a short rage I came back to my senses and researched if there is a npn transistor with similar characteristics to the BC547b but the weird pin out I accidentally created. The only one I could find that might fit is the SC945 but I have to rotate it 180 degrees to make it align with the correct pins. 
I will post another update once I receive the new parts. Until then remember to double check your footprints even if they seem very simple.

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  • DAB
    DAB 7 months ago +1
    One of my first purchases from the surplus market was an old RTL board from some computer, back in the 1960's. So your going back to that era for a project brought a smile to my face as I remembered…
  • DAB
    DAB 7 months ago

    One of my first purchases from the surplus market was an old RTL board from some computer, back in the 1960's.

    So your going back to that era for a project brought a smile to my face as I remembered the fun I had tracing the circuit from the logic boards.

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    RobinTheMaker 7 months ago in reply to michaelkellett

    No worries. I appreciate you wanting to help. Thanks Thumbsup

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    michaelkellett 7 months ago in reply to RobinTheMaker

    I looked at the https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/265567/building-a-full-adder-with-npn-bjt-transistors

    link but missed the bit where you said you had actually done it with NOR gates !

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    MK

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    RobinTheMaker 7 months ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Thanks for your reply.

    As I wrote in my post I did end up using NOR gates build with one NPN and three resistors and I used the following schematic for each of the full adders:
    image

    Credit: jonk

    It does actually use half the transistors compared to my first design but that one wasn't optimized at all. 

    Yes you can squeeze in the TO92 in many funny ways but you definitly don't want to do that 72 times and the resulting pcb would look anything but nice.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 7 months ago

    Did you consider NOR gates as your basic building block. A single transistor can implement a NOR gate and any other gate may be composed from a combination of NOR gates.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOR_gate

    https://ecstudiosystems.com/discover/textbooks/basic-electronics/logic-gates/rtl/

    https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/implementation-of-full-adder-using-nor-gates/

    It wouldn't use any less parts !

    ( But might be easier to tolerance and understand.)

    You can actually squeeze a TO92 transistor of any pin out into a footprint of any layout (50 years of electronics work has offered many opportunities to test this proposition) but it wouldn't look very neat.

    MK

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