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Breadboarding a must

Andrew J
Andrew J over 5 years ago

Really, you gotta breadboard, right?

 

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This is a logic-driven game of snap, but with dice rather than cards.  It uses a XNOR!  If I remember correctly, that sketch on the post-it was for detecting and determining a match on the two LED die, turning on a player's led if they pressed the button correctly before the other player (and not if they didn't.)  I'd post a circuit diagram but about 1/4 of this is Charles Platt's work not mine so I don't feel it would be right.  I just came across the photo today and thought it was quite impressive - I keep thinking of going back to it and actually building it up and encasing.  It actually drove one of my very first questions on Element14 - I'd used an open-drain XNOR and didn't understand why it wasn't working.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 5 years ago in reply to cstanton +8
    And before anyone asks - that jar has 4 months to go before EOL ! @ Christopher, not electrically conductive as we know it ! MK
  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 5 years ago +7
    Andrew J Awesome layout. Honestly... I wish I put my projects to breadboard move often than I do. If I think the circuit is "simple", I go straight to protoboard - and often regret the layout. NOTHING…
  • cstanton
    cstanton over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew J +7
    I hear marmite is electrically conductive.
  • DAB
    DAB over 5 years ago

    There are very few people who can go from idea to working circuit without breadboarding.

     

    It is like writing software correctly the first time and have it all work.

     

    PS, I have only managed to do this a couple of times. image

     

    DAB

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  • colporteur
    colporteur over 5 years ago

    Breadboard, isn't that theory realization?

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 5 years ago in reply to DAB

    You mean to say you get bugs in your software??? image

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 5 years ago in reply to colporteur

    That, and for making cheese sandwiches.

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  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago

    Nice tidy breadboarding work there Andrew J

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 5 years ago in reply to 14rhb

    Not bad is it.  I was actually running out of hook up wire - what you see on the desk top above the right hand BB is all I had left!  I daren't cut the longer bits down in case I needed any longer bits to complete the circuit.  I have a lot more now.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago

    Hi Andrew,

     

    That's very cool. especially the offshoot breadboard that occurred halfway in the design : )

    At my first workplace, I too saw an entire product laid out like this, but on solder proto-boards and on pieces of copper-clad, in a long line that spanned a table : )

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Actually, the 'offshoot' is the start of the circuit - I laid the others out perpendicularly so that both players would sit opposite each other.  It regulates 9V/12V down to 5V and a 555 timer is used to rapidly cycle a signal through a number of logic chips to drive the two banks of LEDs from 1 to 6, so fast that they all look turned on.  Randomisation comes purely from speed and the fact that holding a button down for a duration is non-repeatable by a human.  The other boards have logic to determine whether the two banks match and who pressed the 'snap' button first and to lock the other player out.  I recall I was going to automatically increase the score if a player was correct but I ran out of hook up wire, so that bit is purely manual in the setup above!  I did work out how to debounce the button presses, to prevent multiple scores being registered, using a capacitor rather than a Schmitt trigger or other logic chip (I was running out of those too) image 

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 5 years ago

    Andrew J  Awesome layout.  Honestly... I wish I put my projects to breadboard move often than I do.  If I think the circuit is "simple", I go straight to protoboard - and often regret the layout.  NOTHING is as easy as it looks.  Again, sweet setup. imageimage

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  • DAB
    DAB over 5 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    They are not bugs, they are undocumented features. image

     

    DAB

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